Wilder goes in on Mike Tysons resume

In Tyson’s first year as a pro boxer (March 85 to March 86) he fought 19 times his last 3 opponents in that sequence were Mike Jamieson, Jesse Ferguson & Steve Zouski. The list is typically that of a young fighter making his way up from journeymen through to solid pro’s and isn’t too different in quality to that of Wilder. The most remarkable comparison is Tyson’s 19 fights in 12 months compared to Wilders 8 fights in 12 months.

Tyson’s second year as a pro showed a significant step up in quality with James Tillis & Mitch Green being the first two opponents and by the end of that second year he was The Heavyweight Champion of the World, holding the WBC & WBA belts. Leading into those title fights he beat Jose Ribalta, Alfonso Ratliff and Marvin Frazier before dethroning Trevor Berbick (WBC) and James Smith (WBA) to unify two of the belts. He fought a total of 10 fights in that year bringing his record to 29 - 0 - 26 by KO.

In his second pro year Wilder only fought 4 times with no discernible improvement in opponent quality, Dustin Nichols and Shannon Caudle being 3rd & 4th in that sequence. It would take another 3 years before Wilder caught up with Tyson’s 29 fights but he would still lag behind on opponent quality with Audley Harrison and Kelvin Price being the biggest names on his record. Wilder won the Won WBC Continental Americas heavyweight title from Price.

It would take Deontay Wilder a further 2 years to win the WBC belt from Bermane Stiverne. Wilder took almost 9 years and 33 professional fights to win a World Heavyweight Title while it took Tyson Just 2 years and 28 fights.

In his next 10 fights ( taking him to 37 Wilders current total) Tyson fought James ‘ Bonecrusher’ Smith, Pinklon Thomas, Tony Tucker, Tyrell Biggs, Larry Holmes, Tony Tubbs, Michael Spinks, Frank Bruno & Carl Williams, along the way he unified the World Heavyweight Championships by picking up the IBF belt from Tucker in his 33rd fight.

By comparison Wilders fights were Éric Molina, Johann Duhaupas, Artur Szpilka, Chris Arreola & Gerald Washington.

Interestingly Tyson lost his 38th fight against James ‘Buster’ Douglas.
Tyson would go on to face Evander Holyfield x2 Razor Ruddock, Lennox Lewis, Andrew Golota, Bruce Seldon, Alex Stewart Frank Bruno x2.

I think it’s clear to see that Tyson was a far greater natural force in the Heavyweight division with his resume and achievements eclipsing that of Wilder.

 

Good post:

I literally did a similar breakdown on another Wilder thread a few months back.
Wilder can never criticize anything about Tyson, ever.

 

Spinks would have probably fought Wilder the same way he fought Holmes the first time around: stay in close (therefore stripping Wilder of his long, looping right hand shots), breaking down and beating up Wilder on the inside.

As for old Holmes: the 42-year-old version who beat Mercer would more than likely clown the current version of Wilder with just his jab.

 

reminds me of brook being called the number 1 WW after beating porter and 30 odd milkmen... like who has he beat to say he is the best?...fast forward two fights... almost lost 2 eyes, lost to GGG and lost to spence...

coming back to wider, he himself is missing big names on his resume, who has he beat? a win over Dillian Whyte would be solid but too bad so he is in no position to say anything about tyson

 

Wilder is truly ****ing awful. He's a player in an absolutely **** poor heavyweight division, but rather than that being praise, its a damning verdict on the state of the division.
Wilder gets smashed to pieces by Joshua, no question, Id even suggest likewise by David ****ing Haye, Id go as far down a terrible list as to say even Dillian Whyte could beat him. Tyson Fury would absolutely box his ears off before stopping him, or rather the last version of Fury would have.
The Americans are desperate for another genuine world class heavyweight, and Wilder looks the part, and has power, but absolutely nothing else.
Wilder doesn't last 2 round with the Mike Tyson who annihalated an entire division before being 22 years old.
I think if he ever does fight Joshua, you'll witness a Lewis v Grant mirror re-run

 

yeah i agree even though i believe Tysons CV isn't great enough for me to put him in the top 10 heavyweights but its still 10x better than wilders CV

 

listen in terms of Holmes would you credit amir khan beating Marco Antonio Barrera? didn't think so same thing was long past his prime

and would you credit Anthony joushua if he fought and knocked out andre ward? same thing as the spinks situation

 

It's time for Wilder to step up the Stiverne rematch is a cruel joke. I'd much rather see him fight White or someone else more deserving.

 

More than a few fighters on Tysons resume would or could defeat wilder.

Tucker who would be the most difficult opponent that Tyson fought . He would have height and Jab with great chin . He has more solid boxing fundamentals easily and would be a legit threat to him.. The next would would be Ruddock who would be more susceptible to get knocked out but had the power to put your lights out making him more dangerous than Tucker .Holmes at 38 would still be better than anyone Wilder has fought so far . 38/40 yr old Holmes vs Wilder is probably a 50/50 fight bc Holmes would have maybe struggled with a moving 6'7 footer and wasnt known hard puncher .

Resumes are subjective but no serious fan can actually compare Tyson entire resume to Wilders whos only actual opponent you could compare to a top guy from the 80's was Stiverne and hes not as good as Tony Tubbs who went 10 with Bowe . That alone puts Tyson and Wilder in real life perspective . I bet hard hitting Alex Steward who Tyson knocked out in one round also gives Wilder trouble in another maybe 60/40 fight in favor of Wilder .

Tysons resume of...Tucker/ Bruno / Williams / Tubbs / Spinks / Douglas / Ruddock / Holmes/ Holyfield /Lewis

VS

Wilders ... Washington /Duhaupas / Molina / Szpilka/ Stiverne ??? Is anyone really trying to say Wilders resume is better ? Its not even close.

As far as wilders comments of Tyson losing to any top guy? Lennox Lewis who Tyson lasted with 8 rnds even in 2002 would pulverized Wilder at any point by the mid 90's. and Douglas would be a handful just watch the Tucker fight. When wilder defeats a 6'3 /6'6 guy who can punch and actually box then he can talk.