Wilder has KD Fury 4 times over the bouts

He's also been stopped twice.

If they fought 20 times, Wilder might pick up a W.

 

If they fought 20 times, Wilder might pick up a W.

And if he did a substantial number of people would say the first 19 Fury wins were flukes or a "blimp on the radar."

 

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"

 

Fury is clearly better than Wilder who is no Mike Tyson at all.

 

Yep and he's also won about 4 rounds in the last 3 fights (30.5 rounds)

It's hard to prove this long count thing because fighters listen to the pace of the count and act accordingly. It's entirely possible that Wilder gets Fury out of there with a quicker count, forcing him to his feet quicker. But that's unknowable.

The second knock down Fury talks the Undertaker syndrome up, but he may be sensationalizing for the public.

 

Wilder has hit him clean and put him down 4 times and never been able to keep him down in 31 rounds over 3 fights. I honestly don't know what else can be said, Wilder does not have the power to put Fury away before Fury puts him away, that's been proven now irrefutably.

The definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over again but expecting different results. They could fight 20 times, Fury always wins in my opinion. Wilder's power isn't enough he can't just land 1 or 2 big shots over a 12 round fight and expect that will beat Fury. He needs to land with more regularity than that and he doesn't have the skills to do it.

 

I don't see it. Wilder didn't adapt to Fury leaning on him. He didn't train for the shots to the side and back of the head that Fury utilized in the second fight.

He showed promise in the first round with the jabs and lead rights to the body. And also with the feints. But that gameplan went out the window midway through the 2nd round.

Fury is a fighter. He's been sparring since he was in diapers. He's a big man who knows how to utilize his size.

Wilder has his right hand. Unfortunately for him it's not enough to keep Fury down or win the majority of rounds.

 

Also known as the infinite ****** theorem.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem

 

Incorrect.

Wilder has the power but doesn't have the finishing ability. Those are two different things. And fury is very good at adapting to and anticipating Wilder's shots.

 

What is a long count? The count the referee gives is necessarily subjective. Unless it's blatantly, and I mean blatantly, slow - so as to raise reasonable suspicion of corruption: there's no 'long count'.

If the rulemakers were so bothered about objectivity they would prescribe a stopwatch, tie it to an atomic clock.

The point of the count is giving a fighter a reasonable time to get up and show that they're recovered and able to continue fighting. It's not just some arbitrary way to catch a fighter out and end the fight.

 

Agreed that's a more accurate description. He doesn't have the power to end it with one or 2 shots though, that much is clear, he needs to be able to land consistently and he doesn't have the skill which is why he can't finish Fury, ever.

 

In case anyone does not want to read the whole article here is the most relevant quote: "Less than one in 15 billion, but not zero."

 

The referee did a pretty good job today & I saw that with the Fury and Wilder kd's he used the same protocol as the ref from the second fight:

"Gloves, up, walk, are you okay, do you want to fight"

Non issue in the context of today unless we become consumed by bias

 

Probably not. Wilder's got insane heart, but his trainers were insanely stupid.

How on earth does a pro boxer fighting at the world level for 6+ years never develop combinations beyond a 1-2, never develops basic defense and survival skills, and is only just now going to the body at 35??? Even with context of his limited opposition, it's still ludicrous that he beat guys like Ortiz and took Fury to the brink with sheer guts and raw power.