Wilder helenius likely for October

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  1. Furious

    Furious Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nice - for once I 100% agree with something you’ve posted
     
  2. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    This is truly a momentous occasion.
     
  3. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Helenius will box Wilder's ears off and brutally KO him. You don't do triangle theories with that guy. He's too hot and cold, and hits too goddamn hard.
     
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  4. It's Ovah

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    Helenius isn't slow and Wilder isn't particularly quick these days. Helenius also has good timing and effective counterpunching.

    He puts Wilder on the backfoot with his jab then he has an excellent chance of landing a straight right or long uppercut. Wilder won't be taking any power shots from that guy well at all.
     
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  5. It's Ovah

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    It's a fight worth putting a bet on the underdog on. Wilder will be the obvious favourite but it might be one of those "I could see it all along!" type fights if Robbe pulls the upset...
     
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  6. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agree fully...
     
  7. It's Ovah

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    BS. Helenius is clearly a better, more well-schooled boxer, much better counterpunching, and hits ridiculously hard as well.

    Wilder is good at setting traps though. An underrated quality of his. Very good heart as well.
     
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  8. It's Ovah

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    It's the type of fight that could go really wrong for Wilder. Helenius on paper is worse than a lot of names Wilder has beaten, but he's also by far the biggest puncher he'll have been in with, has solid reach, and looks to have regained some of his old form, while Wilder is coming off a brutal and draining loss and may well be damaged goods. There's a lot of ingredients in the mix here for a less than expected result.
     
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  9. It's Ovah

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    Yes it is solid, but it's also kind of risky and doesn't have a huge amount of upside. If I was Wilder's handler I'd be trying to put him in with a Hammer or Martin level of guy, not a big punching giant who's coming off a high.

    I also think his wins against Kownacki were pretty impressive. Kownacki himself is an awful mess of a man, but he had previously beaten Martin, Washington, Arreola, and Szpilka so he was at least on the level of a Chisora at least.
     
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  10. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is the fight I wanted to see but didn’t expect for his comeback. Helenius could knock him out. Maybe losing the Fury fights cured Wilder’s fear of getting humiliated by a live opponent.
     
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  11. The G-Man

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    You think so?
    To me on paper Helenius is obe of his best possible wins.
     
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  12. BEATDOWNZ

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    You know your stuff, friend.

    Helenius is a potential banana skin for any heavy.
     
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  13. ShortRound

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    Indeed. And on the other side of the equation Helenius has these things going for him:

    1. Big
    2. Big puncher
    3. Highly experienced as an amateur and pro
    4. Little weight of expectation
    5. Good reasons to be motivated
    6. Three KO wins over former belt holders (Brewster, Peter, Liakhovich)
    7. Three KO wins as a wide underdog, all away from home (Teper, Kownacki x2)
    8. In the best form of his career
     
  14. theanatolian

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    While I’m glad that Robbie is getting a high profile bout, I think his late resurgence has more to do with Kownacki being a glorified tomato can than than anything else. Wilder from the Fury rematch should get a highlight-reel KO against him, I wouldn’t be surprised if It resembles Wilder/Breazeale.

    Not a bad opponent after two brutal losses and periods of inactivity nonetheless.
     
  15. theanatolian

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    It could’ve been worse. He could face 40+ shot to **** Mariusz Wach who gave Dillian Whyte a tough fight a year after being beaten by Arthur Szpilka.
     
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