Wilder is an absolute fraud + comparison

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  1. marcosqbit

    marcosqbit New Member Full Member

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    I think Wilder is a fraud, a totally overrated boxer who doesn't even know how to box technically, he just throws windmills with his hands and knocks out second rate boxers and Sulaiman helps him in his career like a father to a protégé child.

    Just for comparison - won fights with quality opposition:
    Wilder - Scott, 2x Ortiz...but Ortiz is brutally old and started pro boxing late
    Fury - 2x Chisora, Wallin, Klitschko, 3x Wilder
    Joshua - Klitschko, Takam, Pulev, Povetkin, Parker, Ruiz, Whyte
    Whyte - 2x Chisora, Parker, Povetkin, Rivas
    Usyk - Chisora, Joshua, Gassiev, Hunter, Bellew, Briedis

    Tell me why Wilder is considered a top boxer when he only defeats second rate boxers like arreola, spilka, stiverne etc...Wilder is FRAUD!
     
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  2. marcosqbit

    marcosqbit New Member Full Member

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    helenius won't beat wilder, but joyce, dubois, sanchez, anderson and whyte definitely will
     
  3. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not sure how you would say Whyte definitely will. His chin is fully cracked at this point.
     
  4. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    There is more to Wilder than meets the eye

    Sure he has heavy flaws but you don't beat even 150 years old ortiz if you are an abysmal boxer

    Fury had to work hard to get to him he uses his height and reach well and one touch can kill you. He is also built of the right stuff and mentally is cut for it.

    He'd knock Whytes head off.
     
  5. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Agreed Wilder is flawed but he’s hard as nails and hits like a truck
     
  6. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    And he has a large pp
     
  7. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fury is the greatest heavyweight of all time
     
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    Goran_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Pointless thread .. nobody ever said Wilder is a great boxer, we all know what he is.. a freakish puncher.. it's alright you criticising his ability but I bet you've never even had one professional fight so who the **** are you, when you've been in there and scrambled the brains of men like Ortiz & Fury then u can talk
     
  9. nurological

    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What a brilliant new and original take with plenty of context of fighters ages and how shot to bits they are, the level they are at etc.

    Can't wait for your next one
     
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    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If beating Wlad Wilder Whyte and Chisora make you the GOAT then the sport is in real trouble
     
  11. marcosqbit

    marcosqbit New Member Full Member

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    i have 20 amateur fights in europe
     
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  12. MarvelousMarvinGolovkin

    MarvelousMarvinGolovkin Kownackis belly button lint Full Member

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    Yeah Wilders best win in Ortiz 1 was even gifted to him, the ref gave him 5 minutes to recover after getting hurt
    Now his come back fight is a former training partner who is a C+ boxer at best
     
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  13. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wilder is considered a top boxer because Hearns hype and Sky behind him at the time. Hearn was hyping Wilder up as knockout machine (when he KOing extremely low level guys) to talk uo the potential AJ fight. Heqrn was thinking its was easy win for , Wilder isn't going mad enough to turn down mutiple over double career high purse offers (unfortunately for AJ and Hearn Haymon has no confidence in Wilder to win that fight.


    Wilder 2affwr thin re Ord of notable is very poor. Ortiz (who had 1 notable himself). Then a bunch very low level guys, whose next Duhaupas, Spzilka and Washington? Can you call them noteworthy?

    Whilst you compare AJ - has beaten 6 opponents with better records than Wilder in Wlad Povetkin , Whyte, Parker, Ruiz and Pulev.

    Povetkin beat the likes of Whyte, Byrd, Chagaev, Takam, Huck, Perez and Hughie Fury. Far superior to Wilders record.

    Whyte has beaten Parker, Rivas and Chisora x2 which much better than Wilders record.

    Parker has beaten Ruiz, Chisora, Takam and Hughie Fuy - much better record than just Ortiz x 2 .

    Now Wilder is fighting a guy who lost everyround to Whyte.
     
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  14. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cos he defeats all the second rate boxers but doesn't beat the very best.... That puts you in the category of a top boxer for the division. He is not elite but he is one of the top heavyweights around
     
  15. marcosqbit

    marcosqbit New Member Full Member

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    i agree.
    correction - Whyte porazil Parkera, Rivase a Chisora x2, což je mnohem lepší než Wildersův rekord. + Povetkin
    Wilder is bubble.