Wilder is an absolute fraud + comparison

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  1. marcosqbit

    marcosqbit New Member Full Member

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    to me he is a cheater. He has big big promo, big talk and patronage from Sulaiman. But boxing skills absolutely average.
     
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  2. Veerbone

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    Anyone who stands in front of him without moving their head constantly has a chance of going to sleep. That's why he'd never beat Usyk, but might beat everybody else on that list.
     
  3. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder is a fraud with no boxing technique?

    Wow. Careful you don't burn yourself on that hot take! :buenrollo:
     
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  4. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    Whyte and Dubois would get brutally KO'd vs Wilder.

    Sanchez would be interesting, but I don't see him avoiding Wilder's right hand all night.

    Joyce is interest - He's got a granite chin, maybe Wilder will break his hand on him. Joyce might be able to wear him down.
     
  5. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Actually Helenius will beat Wilder. This is a very risky fight for Wilder's team to take at this point in time.
     
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  6. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Eh Papa Ortiz is 67 years old + he never ever fight someone decent. So his resume is garbage level too. :D

    I fully agree with what you say. Also people know nothing about fighting if they say Wilder is a tough man. That guy has no legs, absolutely none. There is nothing to hold him to take the hard shots. Fury was literally pushing him with his shots, cause of Wilder chicken legs.
    The reality is anyone with some decent power will get Wilder out of there quick. Fury is feather fisted, and i don't care what anyone say. He is never going to posses big power, compare to the top dogs.
     
  7. EddieLima

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    Wilder is not very technically gifted and fought a bunch of bums coming up. With that being said, I think he is a great fighter. Not only for his notable wins but also by the way he fought against Fury. He'd shown a lot of heart on the 3rd one and almost KOd Fury in the 1st. He gave a lot of excuses for the loss on the 2nd but so what... His punching ability is up there with Foreman/Liston/Jackson. HOF first ballot
     
  8. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When did he cheat?
    He is a level above 2nd rate boxers.
    He hasn't beaten anyone world class or elite so he is at a level between world class and 2nd rate. And unless you don't know the meaning of second rate and or world class then you have to acknowledge he is one of the top boxers
     
  9. marcosqbit

    marcosqbit New Member Full Member

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    the fraud is that he is promoting as a world champion. At the same time, he has been avoiding the world's best opposition for a long time. It has ten defenses, but with boxers such as arreola, spilka or stiverne. This is a joke and a fraud....i hate this pseudostar from instagram
     
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  10. Thunderstorm

    Thunderstorm Active Member Full Member

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    Beating long reigning champions puts you in that conversation
     
  11. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Since he lost the world title when has he claimed or been promoted as world champion? I'm not arguing his resume (outwith fury is poor) but that doesn't make him not a top boxer.... He came close to beating the best heavyweight in the world twice. A 2nd rate fighter doesn't do that.

    Like i said explain how he cheated, explain how he isn't a top boxer.

    Maybe you should not waste any of your energy or time "hating" people you do not know and will never meet?!
     
  12. ShortRound

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    "when he only defeats second rate boxers"

    What is your definition of "first rate"? Because if it ranges from Klitschko to Takam/Scott, it's an absurd, meaningless range.

    "a totally overrated boxer who doesn't even know how to box technically"

    Wilder won a bronze medal on 2.5 years boxing experience, beating that year's Olympic gold medalist over 4 rounds while away from home. Just over 6 years after turning pro he pitched a near shut out against Stiverne, who was coming off career best wins over a top 10 ranked Arreola, one by UD, the other by KO6. When he wants to he can box, though not on the level of Fury or Usyk. But boxing is about a lot more than just pointfighting or being fundementally sound.

    "he just throws windmills"

    You need to watch some actual Wilder fights rather than troll compilations. Szpilka, Ortiz 2 and Breazeale for example were all KO'd by technically sound punches.
     
  13. Mickc

    Mickc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wilder has in abundance what some of the best skilled boxers don’t, Power, Heart and Will to win. Yes he has flaws but only Fury so far has managed to beat him,best to critique a fighters resume when they are finished there careers I’d have said,Wilder still has a lot to offer and also some massive fights for him still in this era.Saying Wilder would lose to so and so is just opinion nothing else,until they’ve fought and then we would know !
     
  14. granth

    granth Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Did Wilder shag your missus?
     
  15. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Steve Cunningham dropped him, he has to be in the top 10 too somewhere .

    The Wlad win was a good one (the result, not the 36 minute non fight) but that and beating Wilder doesn’t make you the GOAT. It makes you the best (If he beats Usyk/AJ winner) or a poor era
     
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