Wilder is an absolute fraud + comparison

Yeah but that's if you get pulled in by the nonsense or the hype and lack objectivity. I dont see him as a fraud and think he beats all the heavies outside of Fury, Usyk and probably AJ, although I wouldn't bet on that.

I don't think anybody out there thinks he is this masterful boxers, it's clear as day to see what he is. A boxer with a half decent jab and lighting fast, powerful right hand. That's enough with this current crop of heavies as the standard is pretty low.

 

Imagine the uproar on he if AJ fought Helenius (who would be one of Wilder best wins) or someone that poor of level.

The last time some as poor as Helenius was in 2016 against Molina lol

 

Thats your opinion and fair enough

Most of those are exactly what i mean about slow plodding and no head movement. Id love to see Joyce v Wilder though just to see how mnay right Joyce can eat! Whyte is just as bad fundamentally as Wilder if not worse and couldn't get out the way of a slow telegraphed Chisora right hand! Everybody outside teh top 3 is similar and pretty poor all round that why Wilder stands out fo me as he has that right hand.

But we could go back and forth all day. We will never agree.

 

hence he as not and never will fight any of them
sluggfest stick him in with lion

 

No it doesn't.

 

Wilder fought Tyson Fury and Luis Ortiz a combined five times.

Joshua fought Usyk and Andy Ruiz a combined four times.

Guess we'll find out soon enough when Fury fights Usyk and Ortiz fights Ruiz.

 

I think he's loses to all of them except Ajagba. I could see Wilder losing to Bakole Hunter, Gassiev and Hughie Fury as well.

 

Man, you have everything backwards.

Ajagba would beat Bakole, Hunter, Gassiev and Hughie.

 

Charles Martin would be a top 3 win for Wilder. That's how bad Wilder's resume is.

 

After Luis Ortiz beats Andy Ruiz in a few weeks he just has to close out the year against Joseph Parker ... and Ortiz will have beaten all the "great" champs this year Joshua has ever lifted titles from.

That's how bad Joshua's "Amazing" run has "actually " been.

Ortiz could've done it sooner, but Fat Andy needed more time to prepare for the old guy.

 

Ajagba is poor, just a younger version of Wilder. Sanchez schooled Ajagba and even a low level journeyman Kiladze dropped Ajagba.

 

Bakole, Hughie, etc. aren't slick Cuban boxer punchers.

Ajagba beats up all those guys you mentioned.

 

Have you perhaps watched Better Call Saul recently?