Wilder is begging for a payday its sad to see lol no one cares about his fights

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  1. Tyson Fury Goat

    Tyson Fury Goat Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    He keeps screaming and using joshuas name to build some hype for himself no one cares even his own American fans don't give a ****

    Joshua vs Wilder is not even a huge fight its not like Joshua vs klit

    Joshua fighting anyone is big

    Wilder should keep his mouth shut and keep making 1 mill paydays
     
  2. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    Wilder definitely could have done more to better promote himself, but a lot of it isn’t his fault. Boxing just isn’t popular here in the US.

    Mayweather and Pacquiao are the only modern boxers to achieve fame here, and Pac only because he was hyped to beat Mayweather.

    Even Mayweather wasn’t really watched much. He was just famous for Twitter-esque bull****.
     
  3. Tyson Fury Goat

    Tyson Fury Goat Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    golovkin is more popular then wilder much more and he is from a different country
     
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  4. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    I’ve never met anyone who’s heard of Golovkin.

    If he is, I would probably guess it’s because of Canelo.

    Boxing is still popular with Latin Americans, so Canelo is known by the Mexicans around here.

    Some of Canelo’s fame may have rubbed off on Golovkin as of recent.
     
  5. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Wilder has everything you need to be an all American superstar. Olympic medalist, unbeaten heavyweight world champion with a huge knockout ratio and an exciting style. But his promoters have just done an awful job of promoting him or they have kept him and his career a bit hushed and a bit protected, but why would they do that?
     
  6. latineg

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    Americans know that Wilder has yet to step up while claiming to be the best ever.

    They are revolting against Wilders trickory by refusing to buy his tickets until he steps up and proves his worth FIRST.
     
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  7. sean

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    wilder could have had a much easier fight v whyte for a lot more money than he is getting for ortiz.

    ortiz is a dangerous fight for wilder / its putting his payday with joshua at risk for no reward.

    i am glad its happening
    i give wilder props for fighting ortiz / to many people ragging him for such a high risk low reward fight.

    nothing i have seen of ortiz suggests this is a gimmee fight.

    if i was to pick a fighter over joshua between ortiz/wilder/parker at this moment i would pick ortiz as a much more dangerous style match up for joshua
     
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  8. Kloppbjs

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    Ortiz is a old drugged up heavyweight who has never done anything in his career and is labelled as a World Class opponent.Whyte is a live opponent,Ortiz is a drugged up one
     
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  9. Tyson Fury Goat

    Tyson Fury Goat Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Ortiz is 55 years old and shot
     
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  10. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    yep ortiz was legit caught and if i was in charge of worldwide boxing i would have banned him for 4 years.

    but the fight is happening and yes i do rate ortiz on what i see with my own eyes as legit top heavyweight fighter.

    whyte imo is uk / european level fighter only / he is big/tough / but oh so easy to read / his punches are too long and predictable/ he lacks finnesse to break into a world class fighter.
    he is the tier below.

    IMO ortiz beats whyte everytime.

    the way to beat ortiz is to keep it long / use speed / jab and cross and dont stay in the pocket and make him come to you or keep him having to reset by just taking a walk after throwing.

    this is not something whyte could ever do

    ortiz is the best counter puncher at heavyweight bar none.
    am i fan of his / no he is a proven drug cheat and i hope someone ktfo of him

    but skillwise i recognise what ortiz brings to the table and do not let bias on my part sway me when analysing fights and fighters
     
  11. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    ortiz first fought for cuba title when he was 22 / sounds about right
    first represented cuba when he was 25 sounds about right given the 2 fighters above him in the cuban heavy rankings at the time.

    if those ages are right then his age of 38 now would also be about right.
     
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  12. madballster

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    Of course it's Wilders fault! Who else? He chose his managers. He has a say in who he fights. He has a say what course his career is going. He chose risk minimization because he KNOWS he is a KO waiting to happen. He knows fans will dismiss him the instant he get's laid out on the ring floor. Because then he will be exposed as a fraudulent "knockout machine" in the eyes of even for the most fervent fanboy.

    Contrast that to Pacquiao who had no trouble building a following even though boxing is supposedly unpopular in the USA. Why? You don't get fans if you fight Boxrec #50s like Wilder. Pacquiao did it by consistently fighting top 2, 3, 4, 5 opponents each and every fight. That's how you get people's attention. Winning helps, but even if you lose and go out on your shield against a top opponent that can build respect with hardcore fans.

    Wilder's handlers know if he faced guys like Wlad, AJ or Povetkin the likelihood of him coming out victorious through all 3 matches is close to 0.0%. They are so focused on protecting his fragile chin they avoid any challenge. Fans see through this scam and are NOT buying into Deontay's fraudulent career. Compare that to Pacquiao's track record!
     
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  13. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    The only reason Pacquiao became semi-famous was because of Mayweather’s Twitter prowess.

    No one knew who the **** he was.

    And your argument is what? That Wilder couldn’t compare to one of the most accomplished athletes ever, who held belts in 8 divisions? Wow. Really damning. Wilder sure is a **** up.
     
  14. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Calm down dear...you ought to leave the keyboard now & then...just sayin'
     
  15. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    I didn't say Wilder needs to compare himself to Pacman. I am saying Wilder can't use the excuse that "Boxing is unpopular" so that's why Wilder is unpopular. Wilder is unpopular because of the CHOICES he makes.

    He avoids risk. He handpicks tomato cans. He can do that, it's his career and his life. But what he can't do is whine about how the boxing world doesn't give him the respect he deserves because he deserves none. Deontay is crying how the system is rigged against him which makes him an instant turn off to most hardcore boxing fans. Nobody likes a whining crybaby.

    Pacman is a nice example because he built his global fanbase by HARD WORK and taking RISKS. That's how you build a following. It has absolutely nothing to do with boxing being unpopular.
     
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