Wilder is cashing out with 3rd Fury fight. Nothing wrong with it.

Wilder indicating he wants a third fight -- a fight that looks like it will happen within 6 months -- says, to me, that he knows he's at the end of the line and it's time to cash out.

Anyone expecting Wilder NOT to make excuses has to be reasonable. If the guy wants to cash out, he has to give people a reason to buy a third fight. The truth is that Fury steamrolled Wilder from the opening round of the second fight. But you can't sell that to the public (for a third fight), so you have to say "Breland got it wrong; costume hurt my legs; eardrum" and etc.

Wilder had a lot better career than I thought he would have. Barring a miracle, there is zero chance he'll beat Fury in a third match. But I'm not mad at him for looking for a final payday. I just hope he can come out of the third fight without taking permanent damage. Fury has his number now, and I hope that Wilder's corner will make the right move (again) if they have to in the third fight.

 

I don't see there being any market for it. It'd be like a Calzaghe vs Lacy rematch.

And I can't see Wilder getting a huge payday out of it either, certainly not enough to justify the career suicide it would entail.

 

Actually there is plenty wrong with it. He will lose and it will further damage his value. I actually think Wilder can still beat AJ and that puts him back on top. He has no chance against Fury. He should go down the AJ route, knocking out Ruiz while AJ deals with his mandos.

 

I agree, the market is small. But what is the alternative? Take a fight against a lesser-known guy?

My point is that Wilder isn't taking this in a 'serious' way. If he were, he'd take more time to come back and take some build up fights. This has the look of someone wanting a final payday before they hang up the gloves.

And I'm ok with that.

 

I agree with you that he should bide his time. He may feel that time is not on his side, though, at 34.

 

I don't think Wilder wants to take the long route here. That's why I'm saying it's a cash out fight. As in, this looks like the end of the line for Wilder. This is it.

He and his team have to know they're not going to beat Fury, especially with such a short amount of time to recover and prepare for a third fight. But that doesn't mean you can't get one more solid check before you leave the sport.

 

He's been found out and exposed, get another big pay check, he'll say he lost to an all time great and then ride of battered and bruised into the sunset, wearing that goofy little heavy suit of his.
Poor horse :-( .

 

Aj check is bigger, from every angle, money and boxing wise going aj route makes more sense. But Wilders career is guided in the best interests of Haymon and pbc and I don’t expect that to change.

 

I think it would be impossible to sell as a ppv

Might still be his largest financial opportunity unless he can get Joshua to fight him

 

I think Deontay does have a chance of beating AJ...but Wilder's stock is going to stay down overall for awhile now (unfortunately, because Wilder is my favorite heavy today).

Deontay needs to fight Ruiz first. If he blows him out, I'm all the way back.

 

His split is lower as well, think it's 60/40 Fury this time. I guess he has no option. Immediately after the fight I would have said there's no value to him trying in the third fight, but the more I think about the more I think he has nothing to lose. The Fury win was so dominant that he'll be no worse off after a third fight, really. It might drop him further back down the rankings of a sort of comeback trail, but I'd imagine he only really sees two fights left in his career now anyway. So it's either Fury and then Joshua or someone like Ruiz and then the winner of Fury v Joshua. The Joshua fight is still a possibility no matter what happens.

 

Why should Joshua fight him? Did he pass up on 100million contract opportunity?

 

I really don't think it's Wilder, I think if Wilder is honest with himself he knows it's not a great idea to take an immediate rematch, he needs to heal, regroup mentally and then maybe go again.

It's Finkel and Haymon, they are not letting Wilder walk away, they are not letting Warren or Hearn rub their faces in it and sitting on the outside looking in with the possibility of Fury Vs AJ in a genuinely huge fight, a record setting fight.

Can you imagine Hearn now, he took his stick after Ruiz, he will be lording it over Finkel, saying how stupid he was for not accepting his offers and now he has to get in line.

But what has struck me is there is video of immediately after the fight I've seen, Finkel is straight up to Breland asking "why"?

Errrrrr, is he blind? Wilder was done, he was bleeding from his ear, his jaw looked wrecked, his mouth was pouring with blood, Fury was battering him round after round.

I would have stopped it earlier, the absolute latest I would have stopped it was at the end of the 6th.

That could/would have ended with a brutal KO, Wilder seriously hurt or God forbid maybe something even worse.

But yeah, Finkel's first reaction should have been leaning over the ropes or between them and asking Wilder if he was OK, making sure his man was alright.. nope, from what I've seen he was straight at Breland.

Even in the post fight presser, Finkel was saying the rematch is likely while Wilder is getting stitches and in his way to hospital.

We have to think about the beating Wilder just took, that takes times to recover from, the mental side is also a real problem, his first defeat, nobody knows what that will do to him.

In my opinion we have seen is Finkel couldn't give a toss about Wilder, and if he forces this rematch then in my opinion again he only cares about the money and status because it all points to another beating for Wilder that could destroy him.

 

There's no money in 3rd fight.
How would you even market it? 'This time Wilder's outfit is 40 pounds lighter'