Wilder is one of the worst HW champions ever.

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  1. BeantownAll

    BeantownAll Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Facts.
     
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  2. humbug

    humbug In Vino Veritas Full Member

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    That’s horse****.

    Wilder shouldn’t have been in the ring tonight, he wasn’t mentally or physically prepared for a world class fighter.
     
  3. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He got the strap through politics. And a fixed fight with Malik Scott. His resume is garbage. Not the worst belt holder ever but the worst hyped up one
     
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  4. Carinito

    Carinito Member Full Member

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    Ruiz would probably beat the **** out of Wilder
     
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  5. oldcanvasback

    oldcanvasback Active Member Full Member

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    ...and Stiverne was Sh*t
     
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  6. oldcanvasback

    oldcanvasback Active Member Full Member

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    Ortiz's rating was mostly based on eye. He could box but he too fought few live opponents. The PBC specializes in holding belts hostage.
     
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  7. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Heavyweight alphabet champions of the last 20-odd years:

    Byrd, Jones, Sanders, J. Ruiz, Brewster, Vitali, Rahman, Valuev, Liakhovich, Wlad, Maskaev, Briggs, Chagaev, Ibragimov, Peter, Haye, Stiverne, Wilder, Fury, Martin, Joshua, Parker, A. Ruiz, Usyk

    Haye was arguably Wlad's best win and one of the stronger fighters on this list, let's have a look at his heavyweight championship record:

    Valuev, J. Ruiz, Audley, Wlad (wide UD loss)

    Pre-championship KO loss to a 40+ blown-up LHW with a 32-6 record, post-championship KO losses to blown-up LHW Tony Bellew. Ducked Cunningham at cruiser and Fury at heavy.
     
  8. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've been getting stick on this forum for years for saying Wilder is the most protected band overrated HW of all time.

    Wilders best win is Ortiz (another very overrated HW) went life and death and was dropped twice by Charles Martin of people.

    Completely out classed and out worked against an underrated Parker.
     
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  9. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yet many of those names would have been Wilder’s second best/ best win. He got smoked last night, as did Wallin, you are looking a bit daft after years of trash talk.

    This is what happens when you fight journeymen your whole career and step up at the end. Wilder is nowhere near the ATG and to think you said him vs Wlad was a 50/50 lmao.
     
  10. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I said he’d beat Parker but I’ll admit when I’m wrong. Sadly all those fanboy, especially the ones who have you hate, are all too cowardly to admit they were badly wrong. They’ve been exposed now anyway, and you were proven correct.
     
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  11. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mitch: Post-Wilder 1 Luis Ortiz > Whyte and Parker.

    He admits that Wilder beat a better fighter than Whyte or Parker, which by his own logic puts Ortiz as the 4th best heavyweight at minimum (he claimed that “2nd ranked” Povetkin “might be able to beat Ortiz” in August 2018) and Wilder well above Whyte or Parker.

    August 2018, 9 and 10 switched in October 2018

    Mitch: Wilder is the 3rd best heavyweight on "resume", KO'd 6th ranked Ortiz, who KO'd 9th ranked Jennings, who is above Chisora and by extension Takam (who Chisora KO'd). Fury doesn’t have a top 10 “resume”, he’s below the likes of Chisora.

    April 2019

    Mitch: Wilder would be a top 10 heavyweight in any era
     
  12. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    And that's precisely the problem...

    The eye test is only any good at the level you're fighting at.

    Ortiz looking slick against third rate fighters doesn't make him A grade.

    Ortiz best achievement was looking good against a disinterested Jennings... Whose best claim to greatness was losing a wide UD to Wlad on the best performance of his career.

    Ortiz was always overrated.
     
  13. T.S.

    T.S. T.Stout Full Member

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    Road to the Heavyweight Championship was paved for an audience starving for an American Heavyweight Champ.
     
  14. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    You guys say Stiverne was **** to discredit Wilder, but Stiverne probably would have beat an Akinwande or even a Rahman or Maskaev..... Even Brewster. Lol
     
  15. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    You can write another 15 epilogues, NEET. But the fact remains, Wilder got schooled by Joseph ‘Paintdry’ Parker.

    HAHAHAHAHAHA

    “Biggest puncher in history” and couldn’t put a dent in Parker.
     
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