Wilder is physically stronger than Anthony Joshua

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  1. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    You're blinded by your ignorance due to lack of knowledge in regards to strength training. I'm well aware that bigger muscles do not always equal greater strength as there is a neuromuscular component to strength. So a smaller man can be stronger because he can recruit a higher percentage of muscle fibers than the bigger man.

    Functional strength is sport specific strength the fact you don't understand that shows how little you know. How does digging a ditch or bailing hay benefit a boxer in a functional way? What about those movements give a boxer a strength advantage in the ring? Answer they don't, as they are not sport specific movements that correlate well to what is required for a boxer. I've never seen Wilder or Joshua bail hay or dig a ditch as a part of their training, why because they would be useless movements to them.
     
  2. fcb1068

    fcb1068 Active Member Full Member

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    Like I said I've watched all of Joshua's fights going back to his amature days. You can tell a lot about someones's punching power based on how they knock people out.

    Joshua wears people down with an accumilation of punches. I don't recall Joshua putting anyone to sleep the way Ortiz smoked Jennings, Thompson, Kayode, Martz. Does Joshua have enough power to hurt wilder, yes but not with one punch. He will need to land more than one in succession. He couldnt even KO 41 year old glass chin Wladimir Klitschko who was tired in the 11th round.

    He went on a slug fest with Dillian Whyte landing multiple shots unanswered before finally scoring knock downs and then the KO.

    Wilder shouldnt show Joshua half the respect he showed Ortiz.
     
  3. fcb1068

    fcb1068 Active Member Full Member

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    I vehemently disagree with your assertion. George Foreman was another country boy who won most of his fights due to his functional strength from lifting cattle, chopping wood and other farm work he did well into youth. Depending on a boxers style, functional strength could well benefit them in the ring although boxing unlike most other martial arts is largely independent of strenght.
     
  4. Southpawswitch

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    If you want to go a little further back, Bob Fitzsimmons, the lightest heavyweight champ of all-time, built his body purely from farmwork and being a blacksmith's apprentice. He had almost no leg development, but he was one of the hardest punchers pound for pound of all-time.
     
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  5. fcb1068

    fcb1068 Active Member Full Member

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    Exactly my point. Great fighter!
     
  6. edabomb

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    IMO Joshua would be stronger at lifting, Wilder is much more explosive with fast twitch muscles.
     
  7. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Even if your premise that farm like labour would improve functional strength when has Deontay Wilder done any of those things? He trains in a very modern way, he doesn't bail hay or dig ditches or lift cattle, he trains in a similar way to Joshua, he uses weights, resistance bands, medicine balls etc.

    The only real difference in how they train is Joshua uses more explosive movements and heavier weights.
     
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  8. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Punching power and strength are 2 different attributes. No denying Fitzsimmons punching power but how strong was he?
     
  9. Southpawswitch

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    By all accounts, he had the muscular upper body of a 200 lbs heavyweight with the strength to match and the lower body of a lightweight(he never weighed more than 167). He was all shoulders and back and no legs at all. Immense strength developed from years of swinging a hammer while blacksmithing.

    http://coxscorner.tripod.com/Images/fitz1.jpg
     
  10. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    the NFL coaches must agree

    this year they have sacked all there 300lb defensive nose tackles brought up in inner citys and replaced them with lanky 210lb kansas farm laborers.

    the quarterbacks meanwhile have taken out extra life and nmedical insurance and have turned religous
     
  11. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    He may punch harder, but not physically stronger.
     
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  12. Sweet_Science

    Sweet_Science Alejandro Rochin, you owe me vcash! Full Member

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    The only thing your post proves is that you spend too much time daydreaming and speculating about Wilder's strength and how it may compare to Joshua's.
    We don't know exactly how they compare and it is a rather irrelevant metric to examine since they are going to box (hopefully), not deadlift.
     
  13. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well said


    Wilders technique is comical it’s so vulnerable and amateurish

    But his long reach and ability to stay outta range is his saving grace. He stays away and throws them laughable Windmill shots until one lands, then his chaotic power turns the fight around

    His wild swinging reminds me of young girls in grade school fighting. But you can’t argue with the results gets
     
  14. Guybino

    Guybino Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jesus the delusion is becoming too much.

    Next thread will be: "Wilder is the A side"
     
  15. Guybino

    Guybino Boxing Addict Full Member

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    To answer this thread with a bit of seriousness:

    You do occasionally get that skinnyish guy who is stronger than he looks, lean muscle has its obvious perks. But if you want to compare real strength then the guy who is bigger with more muscle mass is physically stronger, especially if you are talking over a stone in muscle weight. Sorry to burst your fantasy world bubble but thats just the way it is!

    Let's say this was Muay Thai, where clinching and throwing/tripping is legal. There would be no comparison between Wilder and AJ.

    When/if Aj and Wilder clinch in the ring, AJ will ragdoll him. Same height but much more mass.
     
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