Wilder keeps ducking Luis Ortiz and Alexander Povetkin

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  1. baconmaker

    baconmaker Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    These dudes Povetkin and Luis Ortiz are ready to fight, but Wilder keeps avoiding them. They are his mandatories and Wilder should fight those guys. Instead WBC is giving Wilder to choose garbage cans like Wawrzyk and Washington for title defences. What a joke and corruption! Luis Ortiz would take Wilder in 1 week notice. LMAO
     
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  2. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Goes to show, when you finally get your big "shot" DON'T FAIL a ****ing ped test
     
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  3. Lady Girl

    Lady Girl Kneel Before Zod! Full Member

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    buuuuuuuuum squuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuad!!!!!
     
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  4. groot

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    You forgot the part heavyweight champion of the world
     
  5. groot

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    I got a better fight battle of the steroids junkies the winner fights the heavywright champion wilder
     
  6. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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  7. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Povetkin was cleared by VADA, but the WBC had to protect Wilder so they would not allow Povetkin to knock Wilder out! Ortiz was also framed, he did not take a PED, it was blood pressure medicine, which is not a PED! Once again protecting Wilder from a 50 year old man with high blood pressure!
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  9. Brighton bomber

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    Only reason why the Ortiz fight may happen is because Ortiz signed with Haymon and so it's a no lose situation for Haymon. I feel kind of sorry for Wilder, he might actually have wanted to step up a long time ago but Haymon won't allow him to.

    Fact is Haymon only allows Wilder fight Haymon fighters if possible. Duhaupas, Molina, Szpilka were all Haymon fighters. Wilder was also meant to fight Wawrzyk another Haymon fighter instead of Washington but Wawrzyk got done for doping.

    Stiverne is the only non Haymon fighter Wilder has fought and that was because it was a mandatory. Going by Haymon's track record we can forget Wilder fighting any other non Haymon fighters unless they can get options on the fighter. That's how Joshua got the Martin fight, another Haymon fighter. Which is why Joshua's first 2 defences were against Haymon fighters.
     
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  10. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    What proof do you have to support that claim. Did he tell you himself over Christmas diner??. :crazylick:
     
  11. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    None, hence why I said "might" and didn't make a definitive statement. That's the thing until Wilder cuts ties with Haymon we really don't know what Wilder really wants. But if he stays with Haymon and the fights with Joshua fail to be made then it's clear Wilder is happy to keep being protected. Same with other Haymon fighters like Stevenson, they are happy being protected as long as they remain as Haymon fighters who are controlled completely by Haymon's machinations.
     
  12. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    You made a definitive statement in regards to Haymon. The WBC has more say in who Wilder fights than Al Haymon.
    There's some notion that Haymon intentionally keeps all his top fighters in house. I recently compiled a list of fights that debunks that falsehood
     
  13. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lol Dino, moving the goal posts again mid argument to deflect the fact I never made a definitive statement regarding Wilder. Can't you ever admit you were wrong?

    All I said regarding Haymon was that he tries and get Wilder defences against Haymon fighters which is a fact, all of Wilder's defences have been against Haymon fighters other than Stiverne who he tried to pay off to delay the mandatory and Washington because he was left without an opponent for Wilder on short notice.

    Also that he has so far protected Wilder by doing so. Though if the Ortiz fight happens it's a sign he is willing to risk Wilder against better opponents, but so far only if they are signed to him or if he doesn't have a choice like with mandatory opponents.
     
  14. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    All true, just to point out, Molina is with Don King so that was Wilders first defense. Not surprisingly!
     
  15. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    You misinterpreted my post in the first place. I was referring to Haymun not Wilder.

    Wilder tried to get fights with Glascov who is with Main Events , Hughie who is with Hennessey Sports , Jennings who was Gary Shaw , Povetkin who is with Rabionsky , Warsick who is with ??? and Joshua who is with Hearns.

    What makes you believe Haymon won't allow him to face a live body? Al doesn't have a history of keeping his fighters away from the big fights.