Wilder-Klitschko this fall for the WBC/WBA/WBO titles?

I agree. And what did Mike Perez do to land himself an eliminator with Povetkin? Lose to Bryant Jennings (who hasn't won a fight since)?

And what did Povetkin do after he won his eliminator? Push the fight with Wilder back nearly a year ... so Wilder had to request voluntary defenses against Duhaupas and Szpilka ... and then test positive for illegal PEDs just before the fight?

The WBC has been a mess.

Time for it to be unified with the others. Make the holder of the WBC belt the "lineal" champ.

By the end of this year, should Wlad beat Fury in their return, Deontay Wilder could be 38-0 and the LINEAL WBC/WBA/WBO Heavyweight Champion of the World.

And this board's collective head will explode.:happy:hi:

That would be hilarious and awesome.:deal

 

Okay.

 

I didn't defend Arreola as an opponent. And I didn't defend the WBC. I agreed the WBC has made a huge mess of things.

I just want the guys who actually want to keep fighting regularly and unify to do so.

The next heavyweight fights up are Joshua-Breazeale, Wilder-Arreola, Fury-Klitschko II. I care about those.

Klitschko and Wilder discussed fighting in 2016 last year before Klitschko lost to Fury. Klitschko doesn't have much time left in the sport. (He may already be done.) If Wlad wins the rematch, we'll get to a unified title quicker.

So I'm rooting for him to win (in the Fury rematch). And I'm rooting for a Wilder-Klitschko unification this year.

I'd rather see the division unified and the guys who want to stay active and fight (like Wilder and Joshua)... than continue to harp about a 37-year-oldl PED user who needs eight months between fights to get all the sh!t out of his system so he doesn't get caught ... and HE STILL gets caught anyway.

If that makes me a Wilder fan, great.

 

Throw him under the bus for what? Wanting to fight three times this year after one fight has already been canceled?

Do you guys even listen to yourselves?

Wilder didn't have to fight anyone. He wants to fight. He wants to stay busy. His mandatory got caught cheating. If he hadn't, he'd likely have fought FOUR TIMES this year.

So he's fighting a late sub. That's better than not fighting at all. (Which most champions these days would've done.)

Last year, he fought THREE TIMES ... even though he had to take five months off with a broken hand.

Get your heads out of your @sses. You've been wrong about this guy from the start.

 

Please do go on.

Haye-Briggs are doing their circus in September.

Ortiz is fighting Ustinov in the WBA tournament. (Did you miss this?)

Bryant Jennings hasn't won a fight in TWO YEARS and got KOed in his last bout.

That leaves Andy Ruiz - probably the only rated guy on the planet I'd pick to LOSE to Arreola right now.

A rematch with Stiverne (who barely survived against a Wilder with a broken hand)

And Kubrat Pulev. Pulev is the guy WHO I would've liked to see him fight. But he isn't. I'd even rather have seen him fight Washington. I've said that before, too.

I agree. Wilder-Arreola should be a mismatch. Arreola is a late sub. Late subs tend to be mismatches.

But, if it's a choice between Wilder not fighting anyone and Wilder fighting Arreola, I'll take Wilder-Arreola and hope Arreola scores a knockdown and provides some excitement. (Like Bert Cooper did when he fought Holyfield.)

Because I'd rather see fighters stay busy when fights are cancelled than just sit around.

I hate coming on here and complaining about fights that AREN'T HAPPENING and fighters who AREN'T active and guys who cause fights to be cancelled.

I'd rather WATCH FIGHTS and talk about those.

 

I don't disagree about Jennings. I'm not defending Arreola. He doesn't "deserve" a shot. I don't know how many times I can say that.

But nobody you've brought up is "deserving" either.

I disagree about Andy Ruiz. Andy Ruiz is terrible. He's embarrassing to watch. If Wilder ever has to fight Andy Ruiz ... I WILL BE MORTIFIED for the sport. The SportsCenter commentary would be poisonous and the MMA fans will laugh long and loud. The fight itself would be about as big of a mismatch as their physiques are.

Chris Arreola was once a dangerous heavyweight. Andy Ruiz isn't and never has been ... and never will be.

In fact, I would love to see Arreola-Ruiz. I'd take Arreola in the ring or out.

If Wilder had chosen Jennings over Arreola ... people would probably view it more favorably because Jennings was close to the top more recently. He's also fit and looks like a top heavyweight.

But I'd honestly give Jennings less of a chance to win than I do Arreola. At least Arreola has power. Jennings throws next to nothing a round (his output is abysmal) and he's not a KO artist.

And where people are complaining about Arreola getting his third title shot, Jennings certainly has done nothing to deserve his third IN A ROW.

Haye would've been better (but he's doing his own thing). Pulev would've been better. A number of guys would've been better.

As a fan, I just hope Wilder's questionable chin and Arreola's power that stopped Molina run into each other at some point, and the fight is exciting for a while.

The heavyweight division is making a comeback. The more Wilder and Joshua and Fury and these guys fight the better. If they get knocked down or get in wild brawls along the way, all the better.

They're going to be favored over whoever they fight until they start fighting each other. So the more often they fight until then, the better. As long as the fights have some excitement, people aren't going to worry about who was rated where before the fight took place.

We're in the building mode at the moment. The truly big fights in the division - Joshua-Wilder, Joshua-Fury, etc. - are still a year or two away.

 

I'd still take Arreola over this guy.

Here's Andy Ruiz taking on Liakhovich AFTER Wilder looked to have killed Sergei in a minute or so and left him on the floor twitching. I think Ruiz's team thought Andy would score a sensational KO, too.

Frankly, I thought Ruiz lost. I don't speak Spanish, so I wasn't influenced by the commentators.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rHFarMtH_E

I NEVER want to see a Wilder-Ruiz fight. That would be a disaster for the division.