Wilder KO's Usyk

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  1. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Fury has been dropped before he faced Wilder.
     
  2. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    Wilder scored a knockdown (or KO, or TKO) with every opponent he entered the ring with.
    If Usyk was the first to avoid it, it would be another argument of his skill.
     
  3. Midwood

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    Yea by bums, but what I mean if Usyk schooled and stopped wilder without getting dropped the myth that fury’s worshippers spread that deontay beats anybody not named fury would be shattered and it would be a huge blow to fools like TS .
     
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  4. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    As slick as Fury is he takes defensive risks and we've seen him take a lot of big shots and even dropped several times. Usyk is a different type of slick and won't make the kind of risky defensive choices like Fury does, such as sit on the ropes with his hands down, or put his hands behind his back, Usyk is far more clinical in his approach.

    It's like comparing RJJ to Hopkins, both slick and elusive but two very different approaches to defense.
     
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  5. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Usyk straight out has a better chin than Fury or Wilder.
     
  6. Wig

    Wig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Impossible to tell since USKY hasn’t been in with any bangers at heavy.

    Joshua’s recent KO record prior to USKY was 40% or two from five - coincidentally his two kos came against shot to pieces old kubRAT pulev and shot to pieces old Alec povetkin.

    shot old delboys KO record going into the USKY about was a slightly better 60% or 3 from 5. USKY simply hasn’t tasted size or power like Wilder Joyce or Fury brings, to say he has a chin at heavy.
     
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  7. Midwood

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    fury is anything but slick. Slicksters don’t get dropped by bums, don’t get their faces smashed by wallins and dropped 4 times by swinging stiffs like wilder.
     
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  8. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Whilst I doubt it would actually come to pass, Wilder does actually have the best chance precisely because he is unorthodox and throws that right had from unexpected angles and positions.

    I would think Usyk would always be either too close or too far for Wilder to get it in clean, but it's not out the realms of wild possibility.

    99 times out of 100 though I'd expect Wilder to be thoroughly bamboozled, frustrated en route to a 12-0 like roasting
     
  9. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Wilder's MO is to wait. Wait and wait and wait... and wait... until his opponent becomes static within range and then he fires. Nothing that has happened prior to this point dissuades him from detonating that bomb, nothing erodes the confidence he has in landing it. He doesn't hesitate. It can be round one, or round 12; he still backs himself to find a home for that big right hand.

    He's not really a counter-puncher and doesn't much punch with his opponent. He engages when the opportunity presents itself, when his feet are set within a range which is much greater than most other fighter's - and he still generates great power from an unusually large distance.

    Trouble is, Usyk doesn't stop moving and doesn't stop punching or feinting. He rarely leaves himself on the straight line Wilder needs to execute. He uses his movement and activity to stop fighters setting their feet, keeping them off balance. When all else fails, he has an iron chin.

    Wilder has one trap but Uysk has all the tools needed to evade it, and the discipline in camp to hone ways to defuse the bomb. The minimum requirement against Usyk is a Plan B.

    It's a horrible match-up for Wilder...
     
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  10. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hopefully Helenius can finish Wilder off.

    We need someone to finish AJ off for good too, Wilder could have been of use for that, but that fight seems unlikely.
    AJ's brand is in tatters but it still lives. Don't get me wrong, I'm thankful for Usyk, but he didn't brutally stop AJ, and that's what's needed to end this show properly.
     
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  11. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    That's not a big saying having in mind with such bum drivers he was in the ring 99,99% ....
    Wilder is going to get stretched against Usyk, AJ and actually every competent boxer he decide to fight.
     
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  12. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    You are a next level delusional.
    Joshua is the bigger puncher in the division, which is proven against top level HW, unlike that fraud Wilder.
    The only person AJ hasn't KD or KO outside of Usyk is Parker, which speaks volume.
    22 KO from 24 fights. Get lost kid.

    Usyk faced and schooled Joyce in the WSB, so don't talk nonsenses.
     
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  13. Wig

    Wig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Delusion? Joshua has 22 KO from 27 fights. Including 5 KOs from his last 10 fights. Factual.
     
  14. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    22 KO from 24 won fights Omyligofren .....
    And still the only guys that doesn't go down was Parker and Usyk.
    Obviously when you lose, you are not going to KO anyone, or is it that hard to get it ?

    And obviously fighting top guys in the division won't last in KO every single one of them, especially when they are Iron chinned.


    He KO/TKO Klitschko who wasn't send to the canvas in 12 years. The first one to KO Johnson, the first one to KO Povetkin, the second after Wladimir to beat at that time and KO Pulev.

    AJ is a huge puncher, and anyone who try to claim otherwise has no idea what he is talking.
     
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  15. freelaw

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    Probably someone said it already but I think Wilder's Szpilka fight is telling us a lot about this one.

    Szpilka is also a southpaw, more or less Usyk's size, technically decent at that.
    But his stamina is lacking and he makes stupid mistakes. And he only got caught late by stupidly lounging in with a hook.

    Usyk is far more than decent technically, his stamina is excellent and his ring IQ is comparable with Floyd's.

    Fury got caught in the third fight because he was going after Wilder in the first place because he judged boxing him as too risky.

    I don't believe it would be too risky for Usyk. He's smaller, quicker on his feet, faster, probably has better skills overall too.

    It's not impossible but I don't believe he gets caught at all. I think it would be a mismatch.