Wilder may be the most devastating HW puncher ever...certainly comparable to Tyson or Dempsey

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  1. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    The follow up off Liston or Louis is extremely worrying for Wilder every time he throws, he has power in his right, but you need far more when putting him in with them two. All he has is length on them and a bit of weight with Louis, its not like he truly outsizes them like the Klit's Lewis etc..Mike Tyson is a 2 round fight maximum, even if he gets caught, he weathers it and the onslaught is immediate from Tyson. A fighter that would look a million dollars against Wilder from this era is a prime Povetkin imo, highlight reel ko
     
  2. George Crowcroft

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    To be fair he doesn't even out length Liston. They have like a 1" reach difference if that
     
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  3. Birmingham

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    There you go. A tall big puncher that Liston fought in Cleve Big Cat Williams is how I see Liston dealing with him, but just quicker, he'd go right at him if he was concerned..Williams had monster power, also a heavier one puncher than Liston, Liston just brutally chopped him down
     
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  4. themaster999

    themaster999 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wlad has to be top 5.
     
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  5. Birmingham

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    I like the taste of penis.
     
  6. CarlChilders

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    Lol dude didn't you just make a similar thread a day or two ago? First off clueless casual Jack Dempsey was a 190 pound club fighter. He wasn't a heavyweight. Second Tyson didn't punch harder than Tommy Morrison, David Tua, George Foreman and others. Third Tye Fields knocked out just as many stiffs as Wilder. In fact he knocked out some of the same stiffs as Wilder and did it easier.
     
  7. Glass City Cobra

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    Brezeale said wilder was like a sledgehammer and joshua was more of an accumulation puncher. He even said comparing the 2 of them, joshuas punches felt like getting hit by a woman:

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    A sparring partner says wilder hits harder than anyone he sparred with including both klitschko, Joshua, whyte and fury:

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    But what do they know???
     
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  8. Ukansodoff

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    When he winds up that right hand and lands it well it looks to be about as hard as you can be expected to be hit. We are definitely talking Mike Tyson level of 1 punch power. You certainly come at Wilder with a virtually none existent gaurd throwing a slow lazy hook like Breazeale did. You wont last a round. Hes lethal and for all the windmill talk his accuracy is good and its fast. Its only when he gets overexcited does he start going mental swinging at the lights.
     
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    If a picture could embody the state the inactive drug-ravaged suicidal shell of the 40% ghost of Tyson Fury who fought Donkey that's it.

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  10. Reinhardt

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    For one shot power, I think he's up there with Shavers, who hit harder than Foreman and Tyson,,according to several fighters
     
  11. CarlChilders

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    Lol you mean Larry Holmes saying Shavers punched harder than Tyson even though Tyson knocked him out? Or do you mean Ron Lyle saying Shavers saying punched harder than Foreman even though George knocked him out. Larry also said Butterbean punched harder than Tyson. So do you believe that too? Or do you just pick which opinion to believe? Larry Holmes also said Frazier punched harder than Tyson or Foreman even though Larry Holmes never faced Frazier or Foreman.
     
  12. Ilesey

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    I think Wilder has tremendous power. It really shouldn't be up for much debate - we can argue where he stacks up against the historic heavyweights but he is without doubt right up there.
     
  13. CarlChilders

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    Some sparring partners say Klitschko punched harder than Wilder. Breazeale was almost knocked out by Amir Mansour as well. I don't see him mentioning him.

    Chris Arreola faced Deontay Wilder, Vitali Klitschko, and Bermaine Stiverne. Arreola stated both Vitali and Stiverne punched harder than Wilder. But what does he know about it right?
     
  14. CarlChilders

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    Tyson faced worse opponents than Wilder? Yeah now you are just typing out of your butt.
     
  15. CarlChilders

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    Lol the heavyweights now are fatter now bigger. Foreman was retired by the time he was 28. He fought Ali, Frazier, Norton, Lyle, Chuck Wepner, Boone Kirkman, Gregoria Peralta twice, Jimmy Young, Geore Chuvalo, and hell even a guy like Jack O'Halloran. Wilder is 33 and his best win of his career came against a 40 year old high blood pressure Luis Ortiz.

    Ross Purrity and Corrie Sanders are better than anybody Wilder has faced. Wlad lost to them. Mike Tyson was stopped by Buster Douglas. A guy who had more skill then anybody Wilder has faced. Hasim Rahman and Oliver McCall are better than anybody Wilder has faced and Lewis lost to them.

    Wilder knocks out club fighter Breazeale in the first round and casuals like you get excited. You aren't going to mention that Bermaine Stiverne knocked out a broken down Chris Arreola quicker than Wilder. You aren't going to mention Adam Kownacki knocked out Gerald Washington and Artur Spilzka quicker than Wilder. You aren't going to mention Arreola smashing Eric Molina much much quicker than Wilder did. But hey Wilder knocked out Breazale quick so that must mean he is the greatest heavyweight of all time and the hardest puncher of all time.

    By the way casual people ran from George Foreman and Mike Tyson. Guys feared their power. Various guys walk right at Wilder which is why the get hit.