Wilder not going to Cardiff

That’s one fight with a guy who has a whole legacy behind him.

UK consistently makes big money fights month after month. That is where all the money is now.

 

Excuse my terrible grammar, my shocking English and quick replies, when I said "nobody" I thought people would gather what I was saying, I meant a lot of people connected with this fight and big media outlets are very surprised and they would have been happy to talk to and interview Wilder, Sky wanted him on commentary I believe, he would have been ringside.

Also lot of people can't believe Wilder hasn't turned up in a week worldwide media is in attendance and for a fight going worldwide.

Wilder is a man who can't fill big arenas in his own country and hasn't fought in any huge arenas or in front of huge crowds so I would assume he'd be very happy for all the exposure and profile boosting he could get this week and get paid in the process.

And get real, Joshua doesn't need Wilder, Joshua will earn more this weekend than Wilder has earned throughout his career. That's the difference in levels we are talking about, it's not remotely comparable.

Joshua has Parker this weekend, assuming he gets past Parker (I keep saying don't underestimate Parker), he owns 3 out of 4 belts and then you have Fury on the horizon, possibly Whyte II if they want to go that way and a list of mandatory challengers like Povetkin (assuming he beats Price) and they are all huge money fights in huge arena.

What's Wilder got? 1 belt and Joshua leftovers like Breazeale or who? Stiverne III? Old man Ortiz II

It's been Wilder shooting his mouth off for months, demanding the fight, demanding a split he doesn't deserve and won't get, he is obsessed with Joshua and decides not to turn up?

We all know who really needs who.

So the facts are while Wilder has been shooting his mouth, Hearn/Joshua have made a fight with another legitimate champion and Joshua is having a huge unification fight this weekend in front of a crowd size Wilder can only dream about earning a purse it would take Wilder 10 fights to earn.

Levels my friend, levels.

As for the Whyte fight, well if it goes to purse bids and Hearn wins, Wilder is coming to the UK and judging by Wilders purses.. Wilder is coming to the Uk.

Once Whyte is mandatory and the WBC call it, if they can't agree terms then I assume they go to purse bids, if Hearn wants this fight in the UK then it will be in the UK. Or Hearn can agree a "side fee" with Whyte and let Team Wilder spend their money and go to the US.

Either way Hearn gets his way, Wilder will have no choice but to fight Whyte, so Hearn wins.

So Wilder can mess around, avoid fighting Whyte (I have no idea why he is) and fight Breazeale for basically peanuts or he can earn multi millions and fight Whyte.

In my opinion Wilder is a total moron, he would beat Whyte in my opinion and would earn a shed load of money in the process and stick it all on top of Hearn and Joshua to make the fight.

 

Who started this rumor that Wilder wasn’t coming to Cardiff anyway???

 

Since when? What defining fight has placed Deontay Wilder in the memory of UK boxing fans and UK mainstream media?

 

The truth is Wilder does no longer want to turn up on AJ's events because Wilder is bitter. He fights for $1.5 million purses and AJ pockets 20 times that. That's the bitter truth that's hard to reconcile for Wilder.

Instead, he prefers to stay in Alabama and make Instagram videos of how he's the baddest man on the planet and everyone is scared of him.

 

When he retired the great Audley Harrison. Duh.

 

What fight? You mean the fight which isn't agreed? That fight?

It's a very basic negotiating point that you do not give a prospective opponent, particularly one with considerably less worldwide fame and drawing power a platform to declare themself the only possible opponent for your champion boxer BEFORE they've agreed terms. Otherwise you're strengthening their negotiating position, weakening your own and using your own carefully built up marketing power to do so. It's bad business and Hearn and AJ have shown themselves to be smarter than that.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was Hearn himself, building the fight even more by milking the Wilder visit. I still expect him to be there anyway.

 

Little p***y gonna hide out in Newport with the p***ies.

 

Would Parker let Wilder into the ring after he knocks out AJ?

 

Assuming Joshua gets by Parker, he will have to make three mandatory defenses next. Or he starts losing belts (that Wilder can pick up).

Joshua's not going to fight Tyson Fury, because Fury is going to sign with Warren and apparently Tyson needs tuneups. And Warren and Hearn hate each other.

Joshua's already fought Whyte. But if he wants to fight him again, go right ahead. Joshua will lose a belt if he fights Whyte instead of a mando, and Wilder can pick up whatever belt Joshua dumps. (And they'll both have TWO.)

Joshua's riding high on his stadium fights NOW. But there are even threads on this board of people who have gone to those fights and complain they can't see and just watch the screen (and likely wouldn't do it again).

So if Joshua is fighting mandos like Oquendo next spring, the stadium days are going to be well over with.

Meanwhile, Wilder can fight
* Whyte
* Parker (if he fights well against Joshua)
* Tyson Fury (when he's ready)
* or pick up a belt that gets stripped from Joshua.

While Joshua fights the likes of Oquendo and Baby Miller.

Wilder's stock will keep going up, Joshua (fighting mandatory lumps) will go down.

Everyone wants to see Wilder-Joshua next. It's the biggest fight.

If Joshua and Hearn think they can make more fighting guys like Fres, Joshua's rep has nowhere to go but down after Saturday. He'll have already won all the belts he can.

It isn't going to get higher fighting mandos or getting stripped of belts.

 

Who'd want to its a ****ing dump.

 

He is **** scared of facing Dillian Whyte. Whyte is mad and you just don't know what he might do.

 

You're overestimating Wilder's importance and underestimating Joshua's global appeal and the marketing expertise behind him.

From here on out Wilder will only get the boxers AJ doesn't want. Any one of them will throw over a fight with Wilder for a shot at AJ. The only exception to that will be those, like Whyte, who think they have a chance of beating him who will seek to take the belt and the AJ fight that comes with him. Wilder will spend the last couple of years of his career with a target on his back.

Fan fatigue in the UK is a genuine concern. However, as a genuine global star Joshua can take his show on the road, fight say Povetkin in Germany in front of a massive crowd. Miller in the US. A headline grabbing fight in Africa or a massively lucrative one in the Middle East. Any or all of which will also appeal to the global brands he's signed with. Down the line opponents attractive to UK audiences, say the Fury's, Haye, Bellew, Dubois, Joyce etc may become available alongside the international mandatory's that can still be used to break new markets.

Of course long term holding so many belts becomes limiting, but AJ can probably sustain it with good relations with the organisations who will also be benefiting from their association with the biggest name in boxing and the licensing fees and publicity for their belts.

 

You're underestimating fans desire to see Wilder-Joshua.

Fan fatigue is a concern. Especially with three mandatories.

The biggest fights for Joshua (after Saturday, assuming he wins) are Wilder, Tyson Fury, David Haye, Dillian Whyte ... and none of them are his mandatories.

They are all the same big fights for Wilder, too, and he's more available than Joshua is.

The difference is Joshua has to fight his mandos or he starts losing belts. There are no more unifications to delay his mandos.

If he fights Baby Miller, he loses a belt. If he fights Whyte again, he loses a belt. Haye, he loses a belt.

You can stage Joshua vs Fres Oquendo/Manuel Charr in South Africa or Germany or wherever, but Joshua's rep isn't going to grow fighting his mandos.

And any thoughts of a big Middle East fight are comical. For the last 20 years, people have said "this big fight" (pick one) will be a huge PPV fight in Dubai. That's code for a fight that will never happen.

There will be no HUGE fights in the Middle East for Joshua. Every time that has ever been brought up for any matchup, it's like an inside joke.

Joshua will be fighting in the UK. That's where's a draw. He's no international star.

A series of mandatory bad fights are upcoming, There are no more unifications he can make to delay them after Saturday. (Unless he loses to Parker, and they have a built-in rematch.)

And losing to Parker wouldn't increase Joshua's rep, either.

 

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