Wilder offers 70-30, Ruiz wants 50-50

Mark Anthony · Jun 29, 2023

miniq said: ↑

Little fat pig

Fury and Wilder run HW boxing

No disrespect to the midget usyk but he'll retire in December.
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Wilder is not that known to casual fans and his stock dropped after Fury beat him.

Mark Anthony · Jun 29, 2023

Serge said: ↑

This is The Dosser's one chance in a 46 fight and 15 year career to finally secure a win over a prime fighter above D level and his greed and delusions of grandeur are going to ruin his chances. Nobody knew he was outside of the hardest of hardcores prior to Belly Fury dragging him from obscurity

And I mean in his own country

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And all he's known for now is getting beaten like a dog x 2 (should be 3 times) on his own soil by the only prime fighter he's ever fought above C level and for the literally countless fantastical excuses he made after Belly beat him half to death.
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Fury was only known in the UK until he beat Wilder.

Serge · Jun 29, 2023

Mark Anthony said: ↑

Fury was only known in the UK until he beat Wilder.
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Why do you lie like a thief, mark?

MAD_PIGE0N · Jun 29, 2023

I see the reason Ruiz not accepting 70:30, but I also see why doesn't exactly deserve 50:50, but rather 60:40. Or make it 40:40+20 for the winner, indeed. It's just that WBC has to go with stricter rules - those two buggers should've already faced each other.

northpaw · Jun 29, 2023

Let me first say the luster is off boff 'em.

A former single belt holder (1-2 in his last 3 fights)
vs.
A former unified 3 belt holder 2-1 in his last 3 fights but has looked poor)

That sounds like 50/50 to me at the least. Ion see where Wilder is in the position to "offer" anything..............

Serge · Jun 29, 2023

Redbeard7 said: ↑

I think this theory is spot on. Joshua said that Wilder KO'ing mutual opponent Breazeale in 1 put pressure on him to perform against Ruiz. AJ looked shaken in those pre-fight interviews and that was when he was still undefeated.

Ruiz also fits the mould as an easy mark: short fat stubby plodder but with less one punch power than Stiverne or Arreola.

I think team Wilder should cough up here. Andy brings a lot to the table: he's got the Mexican fans and the AJ fans behind him. People don't conceive of this fight as a mismatch because Ruiz smashed 2019 Joshua and Wilder may be shopworn. And Ruiz being short and fat adds to the potential humiliation stakes for Wilder, giving it a car crash TV quality.

Ruiz is 33 after 27 years in the sport, has made millions and sprung one of the biggest ever upsets to win three belts. Fighting Wilder = worse health + the possibility of being brutally KO'd and humiliated. So at this stage of his career Ruiz wants to be well compensated and he doesn't seem to be in love with the sport anyway.

If Wilder wants a fight prior to Joshua maybe he can fight Franklin or someone like that. But that's a nothing fight compared to Wilder-Ruiz, whether 70-30 or 50-50. It's not like Wilder has great alternatives in the immediate future pre-AJ. Ruiz can look for rematches with Parker or Ortiz, which are much lower risk. And if Wilder KO's Ruiz he gets a further psychological advantage over AJ, which could potentially be the difference between winning and losing that fight and going on to another mega fight/title shot or not.
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Yes a KO win over Fat Andy likely increases his chance of beating a mentally broken AJ so it's gamble worth taking in the long run. Unless that is Fat Andy were to beat him which I would personally find hilarious.

Serge · Jun 29, 2023

lordlosh said: ↑

More like that Ruiz is in shambles now. His ex-wife suing him, wants to take everything from hi, is spreading lies all over the place, and Ruiz literally hasn't been even seen training, and it's in his all time low.
Sounds familiar? Aka when Wilder picked Fury, imagine that he would have been an easy fight, and a big name on his resume.

But the funny part is Wilder is still trying to outprice himself out with ridiculous demands and thinking he is bigger than he is.
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That too. It's a win win for The Dosser given Fat Andy's out of the ring problems so he needs to concede to a 30/70 split in Fat Andy's favour.

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