WIlder or Loma FOTY?

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  1. Flamazide

    Flamazide Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    ...Yes it is. Lmao I don't know why I thought that **** was happening at the end of December.
     
  2. Vykus

    Vykus ɹoolɟ ǝɥʇ ɯoɹɟ ʍǝᴉʌ ǝɥʇ Full Member

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    If anyone other than Oleksandr Usyk wins fighter of the year im gonna start following poker. Wilder or Loma? I mean seriously, its a one horse race where Usyk wins 1st, 2nd and 3rd.
     
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  3. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    If Wilder defeats Fury, I'd say you can feasibly consider him FOTY. Fury/Ortiz vs Briedis/Gassiev.

    As it stands though, Usyk is ahead of everybody.
     
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  4. Vykus

    Vykus ɹoolɟ ǝɥʇ ɯoɹɟ ʍǝᴉʌ ǝɥʇ Full Member

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    Beating a 39 year old contender with a medical condition and Fury off a 3 year lay off hardly compares to 3 fights, beating 2 undefeated world champions, unifying the whole cruiserweight division, winning the Muhammad Ali trophy, and defeating the former WBC champion in recess defending his unified championship, with 3 fights on foreign soil, 3 different trainers in each fight, and after only 16 fights. Give Wilder a ribbon for most improved and starting to attempt to do what every other champion already does, and what he should have been doing 5 years prior.
     
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    :deal:
     
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  6. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Usyk and it's beyond question for me. Whoever considers Deontay ****ing Wilder needs their head looking at and is just outright disrespectful to the other contenders such as Inoue, Loma, Crawford, Garcia, Canelo, Warrington if he beats Frampton has more of a stake ffs!!!

    Wilder has beaten a middle aged, failed Cuban amateur who's best wins are Scuba Scott and Bryant Jennings and let's not forget he was barely passed medically fit at the time they fought. Now Wilders fighting a sprouting couch potato who's coming off a 2 1/2 year after party. Wilder FOTY, LMFAO...!!!!!
     
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  7. chatty

    chatty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You missed Bellew off Usyks, he fought three times this year. He's also cleaned out Cruiserweight in doing so, ranked number 1 Cruiserweight, won Wbss and is in contention for P4P number 1 ending the year and Goat Cruiserweight fully unifying the division in his 15 th Pro fight. You can argue Breidis, Gassiev and Bellew were at their respective peaks arguably all coming from the back of their career best wins.

    Wilder has had a decent year but you have to take into account that Ortiz near failed a medical going into the bout and looked poor in his bouts previous against domestic/fringe level fighters and Fury being on a two plus year hiatus and not looking too good in his return bouts. Wilder still sits no2 in his division matter less of the result.
     
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  8. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Only if they are casuals Usyk's wins this year were all pretty high profile.

    Breidis fight got a lot of attention because it was so competitive. I must admit I didn't watch it live but after I heard it was so competitive which I didn't expect so I watched it a few days later.

    Gassiev was the WBSS final and had some controversy due to delays on agreeing the fight. Plenty of people were on here during the fight, discussing the outcome.

    Bellew, PPV event in the UK, maybe if are not British it was a fight you might of missed but as a Brit it was a high profile fight for me. Did 600K PPV buys so clearly it did very well.

    For me it's clearly Uysk at the moment by a mile, unifying cruiserweight division, first PPV success with Bellew, he's had an outstanding year.

    Loma in 2nd place for me beating Rigo and going up to beat Linares.

    Wilder beating Ortiz and Fury would be a fantastic year for Wilder and Joshua too with unifying vs Parker and then beating Povetkin had a pretty damn good year but fact is they didn't beat the one guy that mattered in their division and that's each other. Can't give them fighter of the year until that beat the best guy out there.
     
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  9. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Beating an old man with high blood pressure and heart problems and a rusty inactive Fury isn't a patch on what Usyk has done this year.
     
  10. MeatFeastMan

    MeatFeastMan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wilder won't be the fighter of the year in his own division, let alone the whole thing. People seem to forget AJ has beaten Povetkin (And after seeing Povetkin in that fight, it was obviously a tough fight) and Parker for one more belt, in the same year. That is far better than beating Fury and an old man. If Wilder beats Fury it'll be because Fury is finished and not the same fighter anymore.

    And he's not even in the fighter of the year conversation anyways. Usyk is HANDS DOWN the fighter of the year. Nobody comes close. Breidis, Gassiev and Bellew. Who else in their division can say they fought the best 3 fighters in the division this year? Nobody can, apart from Usyk. He couldn't have fought any better opposition at cruiserweight than those 3.
     
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  11. BoxingABC1

    BoxingABC1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    any boxing fan would be able to do that
     
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  12. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    Yeah I guess so.
     
  13. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Asking to choose fight of the year between two bouts that haven't happened yet? I'll probably just wait until they've actually taken place...
     
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  14. Serge

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    Hmm.. beating the shell of Fury who hasn't fought let alone beaten anyone with a pulse in 3 years

    Was inactive for 2.5 years

    Proper inactive, not ticking over in the gym keeping yourself in relatively decent shape inactive

    And even worse he abused the hell out of his body during that 2.5 years of inactivity drinking like a fish, snorting coke and ballooning up to over 400lbs after sitting on his ass all day eating enough junk food to give the population of China a collective heart attack

    And then we have him battling chronic depression on top of that, suffering a nervous breakdown, suicidal thoughts, taking his car out one night and seriously contemplating offing himself then and there

    And he looked like garbage in those 2 warm up 'fights' he had both of which were against scrubs, one of whom was slug slow and shot to bits and was widely derided as one of Wlad's worst title challenger when he was in his prime and was knocked out a year ago by an equally shot 37 y/o Kevin Johnson who couldn't KO an old lady with his Sunday punch. Shot 37 y/o complete non-puncher Kevin Johnson stopped Pianeta, Fury didn't come close to it. Prime Fury stopped the teak-tough Chisora who is levels above even a prime Pianeta who a prime version of Fury would've had no problems getting out of there.

    Beating the Fury who beat Wlad would've meant something but this version not so much. Even his own father, brother, and trainer wanted him to have more fights first and against actual world level opponents, not a pair of useless scrubs. Deep down they all know he isn't ready, which is a sentiment which is shared by about a billion fighters I've seen interviewed about it.

    The most stupid thing about all this is Fury is 30 y/o and there is absolutely no reason for him to rush into a title fight yet. He could easily have given himself another 6 months and had 2 or 3 more tune ups against quality opposition to give himself the best possible chance of winning. But he thinks ''it's written in the stars'' for him to win and that god hasn't brought him this far back from the brink for him to lose this fight. Good luck with that one, Tyson :lol:

    And then we have Old Man River Ortiz who is somehow deemed exactly the same force sans his PEDs as he was when he was on them and had never fought a puncher prior to fighting Donkey, unless that is you consider a 4000 y/o Tony Thompson, Malik ''80-72'' Scott, and Bryant Jennings punchers??

    And Donkey fought Ortiz in the US with a US ref and 3 US judges where everything was stacked in his favour.

    And Donkey is going to have home advantage against Fury where everything will be stacked in his favour


    Usyk fought 3 current or former world champions (one of them a unified champion) in back to back fights, all 3 of which in their backyards without a Ukrainian ref or judge in sight. All 3 of them are legit KO artists, were in great form and had been active, and not one of them was pushing 50, had been popped for PEDs, hadn't fought anyone with a pulse in 3 years, looked like garbage in their previous 2 fights against scrubs, or had been inactive for 2.5 years, ballooned up in weight by over 140lbs, or spent the duration of their 2.5 years of inactivity abusing the hell out of their body with industrial amounts of alcohol, cocaine, and junk food.


    GTFOH :lol:
     
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  15. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    The entire thread says Usyk
     
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