Wilder Ortiz II PPV numbers 138k

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  1. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A few points:
    • Wilder had a reported $20m guarantee, so he's doing just fine
    • By Fury II, four of his prior five fights will have been against top 5 or 6 opponents, including his worst personal matchup in the division
    • The only other fight on that list was a mandatory, so there's no challenging Wilder's comp starting in 2018
    • He never was and is not going to fight Matchroom's No. 2 HW; it's Joshua or bust
    • Ring HWs: 1) Fury (fought in 2018 & will fight in 2020); 2) Wilder; 3) Ruiz & 4) Joshua (fighting each other; 5) Whyte (Matchroom No. 2 & not happening for obvious reasons); 6) Ortiz (fought in 2018 & 2019); 7) Povetkin (faded & ruined a scheduled Wilder fight, in Russia, by popping for PEDs); 8) Parker (boring & has failed in step-up fights); 9) Kownacki; 10) Pulev.

    So unless you want to argue that Wilder should turn his attention to Kownacki or Pulev, he's fighting the best competition that he can for the moment. If he beats Fury, then he needs to unify against the Ruiz/Joshua winner or take on Kownacki, Parker or Usyk? I'd be fine with Whyte, too, provided he can get his test samples right, but realistically you don't pit your top dog against someone else's No. 2.
     
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  2. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm seeing people that criticised Glasers numbers in the past suddenly start accepting them. Even more I am seeing people who in the past called his estimates low now say they are way too high. Seems very few people are willing to be objective.
     
  3. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    I don’t know if lowering the price would have driven profit, but it might have helped promote the Fury fight.

    Wilder did deliver a viral clip for social media, so Showtime at least got that bit of extra promo.
     
  4. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    While everyone here babbles about stuff they heard from some guy who heard from some guy ... PBC announced yesterday a major, multi-year PPV deal with the distributor for Comcast/Charter/Cox Communications.

    https://boxingjunkie.usatoday.com/2...ions-strikes-pay-per-view-deal-with-in-demand

    December 3, 2019

    Premier Boxing Champions is doubling down on the pay-per-view business.

    The boxing management stable headed by Al Haymon has signed a multi-year output deal with In Demand, a major pay-per-view distributor owned by Comcast Cable, Charter Communications and Cox Communications, it was announced today in a release.

    “PBC has the best fighters and most anticipated bouts in the boxing world today,” said Mark Boccardi, In Demand’s senior vice president of programming and marketing. “We’ve been distributing PBC’s exciting matches on pay-per-view for some time, but we’ve now cemented our alliance for the next several years.

    “It’s gratifying that Premier Boxing Champions recognizes the benefits of committing to a long-term partnership and reaping the rewards that In Demand offers our pay-per-view content providers: revenue, distribution and marketing support.”

    PBC has exclusive output deals with Showtime and Fox, an enthusiastic proponent of the pay-per-view business model. In Demand distributed all four Fox Sports/PBC pay-per-view events in 2019, including the recent Deontay Wilder-Luis Ortiz rematch last month. That fight was the sixth pay-per-view boxing event In Demand distributed this year.

    In Demand was left with a gaping void in its programming to start the year after the UFC left Fox for ESPN+, the streaming app, and Canelo Alvarez, perhaps the most bankable active boxer in the sport, signed an exclusive deal with streaming upstart DAZN, which started its early ad campaign with a heavy anti-pay-per-view slant.

    But the absence of some familiar players in the pay-per-view market is not necessarily leading to its demise, as some had predicted. At Fox Sports, Executive Vice President of Programming Bill Wanger said he remains “very bullish” on pay-per-view. Including the Wilder-Ortiz II show, Fox has broadcast four pay-per-view boxing shows this year. The other three: Manny Pacquiao-Keith Thurman, Errol Spence-Mikey Garcia and Errol Spence-Shawn Porter.

    According to Multi Channel News, In Demand’s first boxing event in 2020 could be the joint pay-per-view effort between ESPN and Fox for the Wilder vs. Tyson Fury rematch pegged for Feb. 22.
     
  5. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Many people won't pay $75 on a meaningless fight. But, to watch a brutal KO or the thought of one may drive people to pay $35. Perfect example, my wife paid $75 for the Mosely/Matgarito fight. First section above floor seating. Turned out to be one of the biggest crowds the Staples Center ever had at the time. Those same seats go for over $300 now.
     
  6. Stiff Jab

    Stiff Jab Despiser of Super-Middleweights Full Member

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    According to Boxing Scene, it was significantly more than 138k:

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  7. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    Let be honest here, Wilder acts like some sort of internet gansta so he alienates 95% of the worlds population..

    His is bat **** boring for 95% of the time in the ring he is flopping around looking at his opponent with out actually doing much at all. When he does try to box he looks like some guy out of RnR with absolutely no technique or ability. Cringe stuff.

    Then he throws this uncoordinated windmill out of nowhere floors his opponent and proceeds to dance like some mad idiot (being nice) and start talking some internet gangsta **** again...

    People wonder why he isn't that popular..
     
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  8. Brixton Bomber

    Brixton Bomber Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Still poor for a HW Champ.

    Floyd, before he was "Money" was doing bigger numbers, so was Hopkins (of all people!).
     
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  9. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder thinks it’s a victory hanging onto that belt.

    Belts don’t mean as much as greenbacks
     
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  10. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    the butthurt in this thread increases coincidentally with the buy reportage. it's sublime. :lol:
     
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  11. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    $19.25 million + livegate and international viewing is half decent.
     
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  12. Stiff Jab

    Stiff Jab Despiser of Super-Middleweights Full Member

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    Especially when this was against a contender almost no one thought had a chance. It's at least semi-promising for buyrate numbers vs someone they think can actually beat Wilder (a Fury or a Ruiz or an AJ).
     
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  13. GK BOX

    GK BOX Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The scene reporting 275k buys. If true is a SUBSTANTIAL improvement over Glaser's numbers. The truth is probably 200k
     
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  14. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    I still don't see how anyone cares about this stuff. I've been watching boxing my whole life and I could give a **** about how many other people are watching
     
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  15. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    He's pretty boring other than the KO. That's what's enticing, will he KO the opponent? So there's some anticipation in his fights. But before the KO, yeah, he's pretty boring.