Wilder-Povetkin purse bid is today (Haymon lost lol)

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  1. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    hbo. also who says the russians will give haymon the rights? they will more than likely charge him threw the nose for the rights

    i actually feel wilder will pull out anyway
     
  2. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    HBO won't get into a bidding war to promote one of Al Haymon's top guys.

    They appear to be in the Tyson Fury business. They paid for the rights to show the Klitschko-Fury fight. They profiled Tyson Fury on REAL Sports.

    They are going that route. Which is fine. They always like showcasing "the real" champ in every division.
     
  3. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    bidding war? im sure they wouldnt have to get into a bidding war, you think the russians will be in a hurry to deal with haymon ,who wouldnt deal with them?

    also you are right hbo is more likely to want to show the real champions like wlad and fury and not a paper champion like wilder
     
  4. GGGunbeatable

    GGGunbeatable Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They won the purse bid, they will win the fight easily. 2:0.

    PovetKING!! :bbb:happy

    Easy work for Sasha. Knockout in round 2 or 3. Curious about the rest of the card, Russians always have decent bouts. Maybe Drodz vs. Glowacki? The audience deserved a longer evening. :good
     
  5. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You're the one who brought up a bidding war. I didn't.

    Povetkins' team has been talking to Haymon for months. They don't hate each other. They aren't suing each other. They just didn't come to an agreement.

    Everyone agrees Fury is the real champ. Wilder isn't. Joshua won't be (when he wins it against Martin). And HBO also televises the fights of the current WBA INTERIM champ, because he's promoted by Golden Boy. They do what they have to do to keep Oscar happy.

    But HBO seems to be all in with Fury.

    If the Wilder-Povetkin fight airs in the U.S., Haymon will most certainly be the one choosing the network it goes on.
     
  6. Swollen Liver

    Swollen Liver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sad day MVC ;)
    You just cannot win a purse against this Russian mobster.
    Hope they will do it Russia just to see that ***** vacate his belt :rofl
     
  7. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wilder finally realizing he is NOT the A side in this. He's a sideshow.
     
  8. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If anyone pulls out ... it'll be Povetkin.

    Especially now, when he knows how much he's going to be paid.

    He could probably make that much against a Wach type. I'm sure he isn't thrilled.

    And he's pulled out of a title fight before, when he was scheduled to make FAR more.
     
  9. Stallion

    Stallion Son of Rome Full Member

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    Povetkin still receives a guaranteed minimum per his contract regardless of his purse. The purse ($2mil) is just an addition money that Povetkin is going to earn. He is likely to earn between 4 and 6 million after his contract money and TV rights money are paid (his promoter is negotiating with the most popular Russian TV channel - Russia 1).

    This fight is also no longer a "Haymon card", because the purse bids are won by Povetkin's promoter. He will sell the USA TV rights to whatever network offers him the most money (likely to be Showtime). And that money is going straight into Ryabinskiy's pockets (Povetkin likely receiving a cut as well).

    Povetkin is guaranteed to pocket the second highest pay of his career (second to the Wlad Klitschko payday of course).

    Wilder is going to pocket between $4.4 million (if he loses) and $5.1 million (if he wins) - which is still by far the biggest payday of his career.
     
  10. Dubblechin

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    Showtime boxing is Al Haymon. They have an exclusive deal with him.

    CBS (which also has a deal with Haymon) owns Showtime. In fact, the Showtime boxing announcers are now calling the fights on CBS.

    I'm sure Haymon would rather it be on CBS during the afternoon time slot than Showtime. But we'll see.
    :good
     
  11. Stallion

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    Well, technically Ryabinskiy can air it on HBO or whatever other network he wishes. I assume that Showtime will pay him more money because Haymon would like it aired on Showtime/CBS. They really don't have much maneuvering space since the Russians won the bids and now own everything regarding the fight (location, gate, revenue, TV etc).
     
  12. UnleashtheFURY

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    Wilders backers who you sing the highest praise for screwed him over here..... What do you have to say for yourself MVC! ???
     
  13. Dubblechin

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    Why would HBO promote a Deontay Wilder fight?

    And when HBO buys fights like Klitschko-Fury, they are billed as HBO World Championship boxing cards. And the HBO team calls it.

    When the Wilder-Povetkin fight airs in the U.S., if it's on Showtime it'll be billed as a Showtime Championship Boxing card. If it's on one of the networks, it'll be billed as a Premiere Boxing Champions presents.

    Haymon has all the channels, except HBO. And Oscar's Estrella channel. :yep

    Haymon has Showtime, ESPN, SPIKE, CBS, NBC, Fox, Fox Sports. Bounce. That's why he has them.

    If it airs here, Haymon will be behind the TV promotion and the U.S. guys he picks will do the call. And it'll be a PBC show - without the background (which he's also done before).

    This time, he just won't be on the hook for the purses.
     
  14. Stallion

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    That's why I said that the fight is likely to land on Showtime, because HBO is probably not interested pay to Povetkin's people much money for it (there is still a small chance for it in my opinion since they had already paid for Povetkin-Klitschko, Povetkin-Chambers etc).

    Technically, it doesn't matter whether those TV stations cooperate with Haymon or not, they will have to pay (or either Haymon will provide them with enough money to pay) Povetkin's promoter money if they want to air the fight.

    It is certainly not going to be NBC, ESPN, Fox, Spike, Bounce etc, since those networks receive money to air the fights rather than pay it. It is almost certainly going to be aired on Showtime since have good relationship with Haymon and will pay the Russians the most money in order to receive the rights to televise the fight. It is up to them how well are they going to promote it since they will likely pay Ryabiskiy good cash for the broadcasting rights.
     
  15. Dubblechin

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    Well, most U.S. channels don't pay "good cash" for those fights. Most have no interest at all.

    That's why Chagaev-Browne is on something called AWE next weekend. Which, I'm sure, paid next to nothing because absolutely no other channel in the States had an interest. :hi:

    That's why fights like Wlad Klitschko-Chagaev ended up on ESPN with Teddy Atlas doing the call in a studio watching a monitor at the last minute. (Back when ESPN's budget for boxing was next to nothing.)

    That's why a lot of these cards from Europe aren't advertised as airing in the U.S. until the very last minute (like days before the fight).

    If a channel just picks up a feed for a boxing card ... they rarely pay a whole lot for it. (Nothing close to a million.) Because there aren't many takers. The promoter is just getting what he can get.

    If Haymon has most of the channels, he can really offer just about whatever he wants. Promoters all over the world like working with him because he is fair and when he's in charge makes sure everyone gets a nice cut. I doubt he'd try to screw them. He wants Wilder to be seen by as many people as possible.

    And I don't know why you guys just assume the Russian promoters HATE Al Haymon like some idiots on this message board do and they're going to "give" the fight to someone else out of spite.

    They have been talking for months, they just didn't reach an agreement. So they went to a bid, and now it's over.

    If they want to televise the fight in the U.S., Haymon will be the likely guy promoting it here. He has the boxing channels. He's the guy they've been working with. They aren't suing each other and they aren't mortal enemies.