Wilder-Povetkin purse bid is today (Haymon lost lol)

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  1. MVC!

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    He is the A-Side. It's a shame he got screwed over.
     
  2. The Long Count

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    His own team didn't put up enough money to win the rights. He is clearly B SIDE. and nowhere near the 17 million YOU said he would walk away with.
     
  3. Dubblechin

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    If he wanted to win the purse bid he'd have bid more than $5 million. Like I said, he pays $3 million or more for most of his network PBC cards.

    But, to win the bid, he'd have had to pay more the $8 million. Now he gets to televise the fight without paying the boxers. He saves $8 million that otherwise he'd have to spend.

    He gets to collect money for advertising if he puts it on the network to offset the cost of buying time and the rights fee. He basically has no competition when it comes to networks trying to steal it out from under him (because he's got deals with basically everyone).

    And his fighter still gets the biggest payday of his career.

    How much would he have made if he paid the $8 million extra to win the purse bid ... and then he had to actually stage the fight and buy time on the networks?

    This isn't a SUPER FIGHT. To most people tuning in, this is just another boxing match PBC is putting on. It'll certainly be advertised as one. Maybe Al Haymon doesn't want to pay huge money in purses until he can stage a PPV? And he probably didn't feel this was a PPV fight. And he's probably right about that.

    Wilder's happy. Haymon's happy. We won't have to pay PPV prices to see it. We should be happy.

    The only guy who probably isn't happy is Povetkin. I don't think he expected a low-ball offer from his promoter and then have his promoter win. Because Povetkin certainly doesn't view this as just another fight. He's needed a tuneup. He's asked to have the date pushed back. He's been training since January and posting videos of it. And he isn't going to be paid like it's a big fight.

    I always knew Wilder would fight him. And Wilder has stated repeatedly he doesn't care where it's held. And he's going to make more than he's ever made.

    But I wouldn't be shocked if Povetkin looked for a bigger money fight elsewhere and just told his promoter and Wilder to f*ck off. And I honestly didn't think that would happen. But Povetkin has walked out of a title fight when he was being paid much more than this.

    For the first time, I think Povetkin might actually call it off.

    For Alexander, it might be too big a risk for too little reward.
     
  4. chitownfightfan

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    Well, he's gonna get 2.86 million.

    Not bad for a title challenger.

    Wilder will get 4.5 million.

    Solid, but not great all things considered. :think
     
  5. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    That type of money is reserved for the Klitshckos and the Pacqiouas of boxing.

    Though Im sure Canelo will likely make close to that if he doesnt drop his title against GGG.:lol:
     
  6. Dubblechin

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    No. I think Alexander is going to get $1.9.

    Not good for a guy who expected much more.
     
  7. BlizzyBlizz

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  8. BlizzyBlizz

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    The Russians are the Homer Purse bid Kings. They have to fight on their home turf to win. Contaminate water, **** with their opponents food. PED up. Foh...
     
  9. Rumsfeld

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    Do you truly believe Povetkin is going to pull out when it's already gotten to this point? That would be a real bad look.

    I see it as a 50-50 type thing myself. I don't think either guy is especially good, but around here I believe Wilder tends to be a touch underrated and Povetkin a good deal overrated on the whole.
     
  10. Dubblechin

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    He's done it before.
     
  11. Dubblechin

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    He's done it TWICE actually.

    There was a Klitschko-Povetkin purse bid in 2008, which K2 won. Povetkin backed out claiming an injury. He wouldn't reschedule.

    There was a second Klitschko-Povetkin purse bid in 2010, which K2 won again. Povetkin backed out a second time. Later, Teddy Atlas admitted he just didn't think Povetkin was good enough or ready to win.

    Povetkin's managers eventually fired Atlas, because he liked to be on ESPN more than he liked training.

    And in 2013, there was a third purse bid. Povetkin's team finally won. And Wlad destroyed him.

    Each time he backed out, it was for much more money than Povetkin is getting this time.
     
  12. Rumsfeld

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    I remember those. Emanuel used to claim that Povetkin had idolized Wlad when he was young and developing, and that he always "feared" facing his hero - he didn't use the word fear I don't think, but he suggested it. And I know Atlas wasn't big on him either.

    But at this stage in his career, I'm just not understanding what he'd be waiting for.

    I'll be sure to remember this post if things indeed do wind up playing out that way.
     
  13. The Long Count

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    Pure spin. He bid and he lost. The Russians control the event, they stand to make the most money with the event. It's not a ppv fight for sure. Wilder hasn't been able to draw in his own back yard. At least Povetkin draws in his country. I'm glad the fight was made. I thought the bid would be closer to ten-eleven million but I was wrong. Maybe Haymon would of bid higher if Wilder had proven to draw ratings but he doesn't. So he went the cheap route and let the Russian pay. They didn't pay as much as many thought because they were a step ahead
     
  14. BlizzyBlizz

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    Boxing has taken a step backwards. Povetkin is a total unknown. Total.
     
  15. XCalibur79

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    This should just be a motivator for Wilder. If I was him I'd be royally ****ed. Now its a make or break fight for his career in a hostile country with his belt on the line.

    This fight won't go to the decision cards. Wilder should just take the fight to Povetkin now and take a chance. Try and get him into a corner and kill him before Povetkin can hit him.

    Povetkin is easy to hit and Wilder has the power. He may get knocked out in the process but he should take the chance. Don't let it go to the scorecards he will never get a decision in Russia.