Wilder refuse to give Parker credits and new portion of excuses

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  1. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    He should have just stayed at home and ordered a pizza last night.

    A fighter whose game plans are:
    A) Hope Parker walks into the right hand
    B) Hope Parker walks into the right hand
    C) Hope Parker walks into the right hand

    can do only this, stay at home and order a pizza.
     
  2. Jab in the Face

    Jab in the Face Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yea at least when Wilder went deep earlier in his career he had a jab and won some rounds, last night it was simply knock Parker out, nothing else.
     
  3. Kratos

    Kratos Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Boxers should grow some balls and just refuse to fight him from now on so he doesn’t get any money and he can be forced to retire, he won’t be in a mandatory shot place anytime soon. The guy has problems and he’ll never accept that he sucks and was never any good.
     
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  4. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    He was absolutely the same in Fury 2, absolutely the same in Helenius as well. He was waiting his opponent to come at him, and he believe he will land at some point, as Parker is not known for being the most elusive fighter out there.

    If you play the Helenius fight, he was using exactly the same strategy:
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    That's why i laugh so much at the people that try to excuse him every single time, claiming he is 38 and suddenly he is in great physical decline.
    But not a word on it, before the fight.

    Nqh he wasn't in any decline, the reality is Parker ain't the usual bum Wilder was use to face, and Parker while not been Elite fighter(he is top fighter still), has a top notch gameplan, and knew how to neutralize Wilder right hand.
    This is the exact same WIlder that faces Fury, exact same Wilder that KO Ortiz, and exact same Wilder as the Helenius fight.

    Inactivity can't be an excuse, cause he wasn't injured or so, he himself decide to stay out of the picture waiting someone to throw big money on him, while claiming everyone is ducking him.

    And that Parker that showed few days ago, beat any version of Wilder, even though Wilder/Fury fans won't admit it.

    And once again i was 100% correct that Parker is miles better than Luis Ortiz. As unlike Ortiz, Parker gameplan was miles better + unlike Ortiz Parker actually had cardio for 12 rounds.
    And Parker chin is miles better than any chin Wilder has ever faces, not that Parker chin was needed to be tested.
    The bum squad never landed clean.

    And hell for the speed and athleticism and explosiveness Wilder fans claim he always had, he has always, even in his 20s always telegraphed his right hand, and he never set it up, which just tells you that if a competent fighter goes against him, Wilder will be in a world of problems landing that right hand.

    And we still don't know how powerful he really is, cause his resume full of bums.
    And it's going to be even worst comes February 17th, when Usyk KO Fury, and Wilder couldn't do that in 3 fights.
     
  5. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Nqh WBC will always have him close to top 3. He was Number 1 for some strange reason in WBC without fighting for a whole year.

    I'm curious now at what Ranking Wilder will be in WBC ranking, and who will now be Number 1 WBC ranked opponent. It has to be either Parker or AJ.
    I'm just waiting for the official ranking, so i can have a hard laugh at it.
     
  6. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Seeing how tentative Wilder was with Parker, what's he going to be like with a 250lb+ behemoth, who's got a world level amateur skill set and a corner team that makes Scuba Scott look like a school boys couch.

    AJ adopting that high/low jab and punching to Wilder's chest will have him backing up to the ropes and corners, at which point AJ unloads and Wilder is done. I've always thought that fighters who are able to disrupt Wilder's rhythm and back him up are going to cause him fits. I always figured Parker, Ruiz, Usyk, prime Povetkin, pressure fighters like Takam, hell even a less shot Chisora would have a great chance of ironing out Wilder. Joshua needs to keep on the current track with his team and anyone claiming that AJ would be ducking Wilder taking on Hrgovic, well I think Hrgovic is now a much tougher test. Should AJ get the vacant IBF strap, a voluntary against Wilder could still be made and still for a huge bag.
     
  7. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    By now all the former HWs WC are done plus Fury (excluded Ruiz). The last victories of Joshua and Fury dont count nothing imo.
     
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  8. AdamT

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    I think he won maybe 1 round at best
    I don't care if he was inactive, that's on him

    Parker pretty much won by a shutout and was clearly the better man

    Sour grapes from Wilder. He should just retire.
     
  9. Glass 1/2 Empty

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    Maybe Parker should rematch him and give him another dominant beating, just so finally Wilder can STFU.
     
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  10. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    I absolutely knew that he would have excuses later. Didn't buy that humble act right after the fight. This dude's only form of motivation is to delude himself into believing that there has to be a reason for him losing other than the other guy being better.
     
  11. Stiff Jab

    Stiff Jab Despiser of Super-Middleweights Full Member

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    Here's the thing; I absolutely believe his inactivity hurt his timing, and without timing, his only weapon - the right-hand bomb - is useless.

    But whose fault is it that you were inactive, Wilder? Why, I do believe it was yours. Joseph Parker had no problem getting fights after losing to Joe Joyce.
     
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  12. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    That didn't take long for him going from no excuse to a list of excuse. Bottom line you were damn near shut out on all 3 cards. Should have, could have, but didn't.
     
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  13. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Well he must have sparred.
     
  14. Diagoras

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    Inactivity did hurt him but whose fault is that? No one forced him to be that inactive & straight to delusional talk about AJ not wanting him, well AJ kept his end of the deal

    I did predict before the fight that the most likely upset on the card was Parker vs Wilder due to Wilder's inactivity, Parker's activity, & the fact that Parker had Fury in his camp to give input on Wilder

    Wilder needs to give Parker his credit who kept himself active, retire, & stfu
     
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  15. Stiff Jab

    Stiff Jab Despiser of Super-Middleweights Full Member

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    I was listening to Nonito and Rachel Donaire address that point; sparring has an element of at least perceived safety where you aren't tentative and are willing to let your hands go. We've seen plenty of guys make a comeback after over a year off talking about their great camps and sparring only to look absolutely awkward in the ring, at least for the first 5 rounds or so. Sparring isn't fighting no matter how much dojo bros and boxing gym warriors alike try to equate the two.
     
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