Wilder refuses 4.5 million offer to fight Dillian Whyte

You are over estimating Wilder's reputation and the marketability of the whole UK vs USA thing. Martin was another US heavyweight champion that AJ fought and that wasn't a mega fight, no where near and Wilder honestly isn't well known enough to bring much more than Martin.

You say it would be a piece of cake to build the fight and you are right. Joshua has done his side of it, fought Martin and Molina to build his profile to the US fans, got a deal with Showtime, gone over there and done chat shows and that will build the fight in regards to US fans but Wilder needs to do his part too to build the fight. Most of the money for this fight will come from the UK due to Wilder's low profile so to make this a mega fight it will take more than just a little US interest, it will require UK casuals buying the fight in large numbers like the Wlad fight.

Wilder needs to realise he isn't calling the shots here, not by a long shot. So he can play games and allow his ego to prevent a good payday against a supposedly easy opponent in Whyte pass him by but if he wants Joshua he will need to play ball. Hearn and Joshua have both said the belts don't matter, they don't need Wilder. Sure they would like the unify and want what they see as a potentially huge fight, but if there is too much resistance from Wilder and his team they'll just move on. Offer Parker the Whyte fight and have a mega unification fight with Parker.

Wilder already allowed a $10 mill payday pass him by against Povetkin and was then offered half that when the fight went to purse bids. Wouldn't shock me at all if he blows this again and either never gets the Joshua fight or when he does it will be for far less that what was offered initially.

If I was Hearn I'd work to get Whyte as mandatory for the WBC title, he's already ranked 5th, then he can force Wilder/Whyte, probably for far less than what he was going to pay as well.

 

Joshua is starting to look like a ***** in my eyes. He didn't truly win his Gold medal. He was a fake ass thug wannabe, and now he wants Wlad again who isn't even sure he wants the rematch. Joshua is the one who wants the rematch. Excuses excuses. Your excuses are running out. There will be no Whyte/Brit audition. Fight Wilder.

 

Stfu alt.

 

The level isn't the problem. Hearn isn't Wilders promoter. Wilder will do his own business while AJ milks the title.

 

Like Brighton Bomber said...

Joshua v Wilder if that got made tomorrow is a big fight... but its not a Mega Fight and it could be! But surely to maximise its true potential it needs to be driven from the UK... Wyte is not a super star like Joshua but with Hearn behind the fight Wyhte/Wilder would be a big O2 fight aswell... if Wilder came over her and smashed up Whyte he would get the attention of a LOT of casuals all of which would want to see wilder take on their boy Joshua.

I think in this tread the majority are right, Wilder wants the WBC title as his castle to shout from... he calls out everyone while taking as little risk as possible. Its a shame because we all want the best to fight the best and unification's.

 

and hows that going for him... A Heavy Weight World Champion, with his KO rate and he cant even drum up proper support in his own country.

His lack of promotion and rep is exactly why we are having the conversation.

 

If Wilder does his business properly he will make the AJ fight even bigger when it happens by getting himself known in the UK by fighting a live opponent, surely earning 4 times more than your last outing would be good business?

And sorry, i know me and you seem to have similar debates regarding Wilders credibility and AJ etc... but Milking the title?? Is that not a bit rich considering Wilder is fighting the worst possible Voluntaries he can get away with while AJ is fighting Klitschko? Yes i know he was an old Klitschko who hadnt been in the ring for 18 months and lost to Fury prior to AJ etc etc...

But that Klitschko would have destroyed everyone on Wilders resume, he could have fought Eric Molina and Arreola on the undercard then came out and KO'd washington in the main event in one night.

If AJ is milking a title by fighting Klitschko in his 19th fight then i would be interested to see how Wilder, 39 fights deep into his career, is not milking his title?

 

You seem to have a hard time understanding that Wilder has very little (if any) profile amongst anyone other than hardcore boxing fans. Wilder needs Joshua more than Joshua needs Wilder. Deal with it.

 

Exactly, If Hearn promoted Whyte v Wilder as the winner fights AJ then it would be far bigger than it would be if the fight happens now.
Plus like him or not, Hearn will make a huge success of this "Winner fights AJ in a unification" idea. Everyone will make significant money, in front of big crowds. I cannot see how Wilder would look at this as a bad idea - unless obviously he believes he will lose to Whyte and therefore lose his megabucks payday against Joshua.

 

You're really desperate for him to get that AJ payday eh? That he's not confident enough to face Whyte for big money and huge exposure which would really help build the unification fight as Joshua blasts out Pulev he's going to arrange another joke of a defence.

 

if you haven't been here for years that means you're an alt? mind you, i'd rather be an alt than you

 

You're an alt for a reason.

 

Why go back and forth about Wilder? Is that all you want to do is vent? Joshua finally stepped up against a 41 year old man and you think that Hearn can dictate who Wilder fights-and Joshua isn't even the champ? Joshua without Wlad's rich name has a trash resume. All you clowns say are "if, would, could, should, and but". Tell that Olympic fraud to fight Wilder. If he fights Pulev then ill see his stiff ass for what he's really worth. Pulev is 36 years olds and barely beat Chisora, beat Sam Peter, lmao and is a mandatory? Gtfooh with your lunacy. You tell that stiff PED using ***** that Wilder wants a fight.

 

Blame the sanctioning org for making Pulev a mandatory based on those wins. Yeah, he doesn't deserve another shot, but that's not AJ's doing. AJ will at least face and clear that mandatory. Tell us, when has Wilder faced his mandatory? Who's really milking a title here? It's not AJ.

 

This is a really flawed, contradictory post even for you Blizzy.

"Joshua finally stepped up". - AJ fought the most dominant HW of the 21st century in less than 20 fights. How many fights has Wilder had again?

"Joshua without Wlad's rich name has a trash resume" - The guy has had 19 fights and unified the titles, what's Wilder done?

"If he fights Pulev then ill see his stiff ass for what he's really worth" - The guy is his mandatory, something that Wilder would know nothing about.

"Pulev is 36 years olds and barely beat Chisora, beat Sam Peter, lmao" - But would still be BY FAR the best name on Wilder's resume and to be honest would be a toss up if Pulev and Wilder ever fought, they are around the same level.

"You tell that stiff PED using ***** that Wilder wants a fight." - I think you have this confused, it was in fact Wilder who was recently caught with drugs in his car. And BS does Wilder want to fight, did he want to fight when he had FIVE voluntaries and chose to fought nobodies?



It's SO easy debating this with you Blizzy because you just lay the ammunition right there in front of yourself. We get it, you are a Wilder nuthugger plain and simple. But cut the crap about Joshua not wanting to fight him. Joshua wants the biggest fights and challenges and Wilder isn't either of those. You need to accept that there is levels to this and Joshua, Wlad, Fury are on one level and Wilder is down at the basement level along with the bums he's been matched up with.