Wilder refuses 4.5 million offer to fight Dillian Whyte

Wilder has a WBC mandatory. Sulaiman has said this publicly at least twice lately.

He's also said a unification with Joshua would be a priority.

Why doesn't the British promoter pay Wlad the step-aside and make Wilder-Joshua?

 

beyonce would rather fight whyte in court!

booooooooooong squuuuuuuuuuuad!!!!!!!

 

So you believe that Pulev isn't deserving of a title shot too huh? Wow, lmao.

Wilders mandatories have both come up with PEDitis. But this isn't about mandatories. Neither guys mandatory can beat them. I realize that both Joshua and Wilder have shitty undeserving PED using mandatories and should ask for exemptions so that they can fight each other asap!

 

Pulev didn't lose on points to Wlad, he was nearly killed by old Wlad with "one" shot! Foh with mentioning Pulev lmao. You want Joshua to have "trinket defenses" rather than win the true hvw championship through unification. I hate to say it...wait, I love to say it- Joshua isn't the champion.

 

I don't respect dick riders. This is a dick riding post. You tell that PED using ***** to fight Wilder or ill **** on him until he does. He won't fraudulently win the true lineal hvy title like he did winning his fake ass Olympic Gold. Plenty of people here don't believe he truly won his Gold medal. And until i see him looking to unify the titles, he's a fraud. Fights a 41 year old Wlad and you Brits think that he's hot ****. Stiff ass.

 

Why would Hearn pay Wlad step aside money to make a fight that would generate less money than Joshua/Wlad?

Fact is if Wilder and Joshua fight now it's a big fight but wouldn't generate the interest that Joshua/Wlad would. Casuals in the UK in general don't know who Wilder is, he's just an a loud mouth American with a title like Martin was. Wlad is known as a long term dominant champion and the first fight only makes a rematch even more lucrative than the first fight, no way Joshua/Wilder is as big right now. It could be but Wilder needs to build his profile in the UK to do that.

 

Seriously?

 

How "almost" dumb is this? I won't call you dumb because you have made good points in the past. Everyone won't have Wlad's fanbase and if Wlad retires does Pulev have this fanbase that you speak of because that's who Joshua is fighting next. Peep Pulevs last 4 fights.

What makes Pulev more appealing than Wilder right now?

You guys want Wilder Joshua to become big for a reason. You realize that Wilder is a true threat, but yet many of the Brits belittle Wilder for dumbass reasons. Casuals in the UK don't know Wilder. Casuals in America don't know Joshua. Now you might say the fight will be in the U.K. Why won't Joshua and Hearn pay Wilder to come to the UK like he did Martin and Brazeale?

Joshua Wilder doesn't have to be a big fight. But I have a feeling that it will be a big fight regardless of what the trash posters say. It's a unification fight. The winner moves closer and closer to becoming the lineal hvw champion.

 

That's what promoters are for. Unification is something that can be sold. Wlad is elderly. And if Joshua beats Wilder, he can still fight Wlad next year. (At this point we don't even know if Wlad is going to fight again at all -- this is a bird in the hand.)

The "conditions" the English promoter wants are options on Wilder so he can make a Joshua fight (after Wilder presumably beats Whyte) on his terms rather than on Haymon's. That's what this is all about. He's proposing throwing a little money Wilder's way so he can pay him a lot less later for the unification.

It's business. Anyone who doesn't see this doesn't understand the business of boxing.

(And, as noted, easy to call someone out when he has a mandatory and can't take the fight.)

 

Well said. And on top of this Wlad does not want the fight in the UK. So we will see what Joshua does next.

 

I and other Brits are just being realistic. Sure I'd love it if Joshua fought Wilder next if Wlad decides to retire but that isn't happening. The fight could be bigger and Hearn as a business man will do what is most lucrative, you can't live in a dream world and expect boxing promoters to not prioritize money first over what fans want, it isn't realistic.

Casuals may not know AJ in America but that's the only reason Wilder is relevant to team Joshua at the moment, Wilder is the fighter they hope will break America for them and make him known to casuals. For this fight what the US market brings to the table is irrelevant, Wilder is simply too small a draw for US income from this fight to matter. For this fight to be as lucrative as Hearn hopes he has to raise Wilder's profile in the UK as that is where most of the money from this fight will come from, UK casuals not US ones.

Why won't Hearn pay Wilder to come here? Well Wilder wants $7 million for Whyte, I'd assume he wants a lot more than that to cash out against Joshua. $10 mill wasn't enough for Wilder to cash out against Povetkin so we can safely assume he wants at least that and if that's the case the fight will need to be bigger than it currently is. You wonder why Hearn is trying to build the fight and make it bigger than it currently is, well it's likely to meet what will be Wilder's ludicrous purse demand.

 

What does Wilder being a draw or not have to do with anything? It doesn't. It didn't matter for Martin and Brazeale. Not all of Joshua opponents will have a high profile. All of the greats had to fight the Rosendo Alvarez's of the world at some point. Unknown guys with skills who are a threat. You guys may not think highly of Wilder but that's ok, youre Brits. You love Joshua at the moment. Wilder won't ever audition for a fight with a trinket belt holder.

Hearn doesn't have to worry about building Wilders profile for the Brits. That's not his job. He only has to worry about Joshua. And what do you mean 10 mil wasn't enough to cash out against Headvetkin? Wilder doesn't want to fight Whyte at all. He told everyone that through social media. Wilder and Joshua have shitty mandatories coming up yet some of you claim that you don't care about the titles, but now you care about mandatories.

 

You're right, Martin and Breazeale were not/are not draws, so Wilder should accept what Martin got paid, he is just a belt holder like Martin was. I believe it was around 5 million.

Wilder won't accept 4.5 million for fighting Whyte so he will no doubt price himself of an AJ fight.

 

So why won't Hearn make an offer for Wilder to fight Joshua? Lmao.

 

We will see what he does next as he is in control via being the most respected current heavy. He is the most respected as he fought Wlad and won in less than 20 fights. He earned it.

Stop getting so upset about that, Wilder can change that with his next fight if he fights someone good and puts on a great performance like AJ did against Wlad.

No reason to hate on AJ just yet. Sure if he fights 5 guys like Wilder did from here forward, then hate on him all you want a and I will join you.