Wilder refuses 4.5 million offer to fight Dillian Whyte

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  1. BoxingABC1

    BoxingABC1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    because he has to fight Klitschko & then Pulev, is it that hard to understand? why do you even come on here if you just talk crap
     
  2. Okin129

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    Wilder doesn't need to audition for a fight with AJ. The thing is that AJ fights either Wlad Klitschko in a rematch or
    Pulev in his next fight, so Wilder's next fight won't be Anthony Joshua.

    Why doesn't he fight against Whyte to earn 4.5 million in the meantime ? He won't get more money against Stiverne, i think this would be a good opportunity and Wilder would be the favorite even though i rate Whyte above his last opponents which is probably the reason why Wilder avoids him.
     
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  3. Manfred

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    I am not thinking for Wilder because I don't know the man. I can only speak to what he said out of his own mouth. However, I do agree with the man when he says that he wants the Joshua fight. I think that he deserves that fight regardless of who is technically better or not. I think that it will be a great fight and a mega fight. I also think that Hearn is preventing that fight from happening.
     
  4. lewis gassed

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    It's not megafight and Hearn is trying to make it one.
    Wilder and megafight should not be put in the same sentence.
     
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  5. Manfred

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    You gotta look at the big picture. It would indeed be a mega fight.
     
  6. Manfred

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    I think that whatever Wilder does while he is trying to make the Joshua fight is his business. If he doesn't want to deal with Hearn unless it's the Joshua fight then I gotta respect that because it's his choice. Ouite frankly, I only want to see the Joshua fight myself.
     
  7. RG1885

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    I believe he wants the AJ fight as well, i think its his cash out fight and he knows it.
    I think thats why he isnt risking Whyte in the meantime, there is every chance Whyte beats him and Wilders biggest payday is gone. I agree with lewisgassed Hearn is trying to make this a megafight. Alot of people, especially casuals in the UK, have never heard of Wilder.
    If Wilder beats Whyte then he becomes known, more interest = more money for AJ fight.
    If Whyte beats wilder then he becomes champ, rematch unification between two rivals = more money, huge event.

    Its a win-win for Hearn if Wilder fights Whyte, whatever the otucome it sets up a huge unification with AJ afterwards.
    Until AJ is through with the Klitschko business and his mando then he can fight the winner between Whyte and Wilder, the fight will have grown into a megafight if Wilder and Whyte get it on, whoever wins.
     
  8. RG1885

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    Its a far bigger fight if he beats Whyte first.
     
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  9. Manfred

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    Not really, Wilder's support is gonna come from the US and nobody over here knows or cares about Whyte. They know Joshua and they know Wilder.
     
  10. Okin129

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    It's his business but there's a lot to be questioned about his choice, i think he deprives the boxing fans of a good
    fight because Wilder vs Whyte would have war potential including a highly entertaining build-up.
     
  11. RG1885

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    People in the UK generally dont know or dont care about Wilder. They know Whyte, he had a good scrap with AJ and if Wilder wipes him out then it will generate much bigger interest here in the UK.
    Agree, in the US nobody cares about Whyte, but its still the biggest payday and a chance to build the AJ fight, he should take it. Why would he not take it to then fight another bum for 900k?
    I think (I may be wrong) but im convinced its because he knows if Whyte beats him his chance of a massive payday is gone, and Whyte isnt a safe bet for Wilder.
     
  12. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    Funny you're saying big picture, that's what Hearn is trying to do, Wilder's resume must make SkySports crew vomit, how are they supposed to promote this fight now? Telling British public this joke went 12 rounds with Bermaine Stifferne is not gonna sell PPV buys.
    They need something to work with, Wilder needs to face Whyte/Bellew/Ortiz/Pulev to make this a sell-able fight.
     
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  13. Manfred

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    That's ok because the fight would be about the UK vs the US. Wilder's base can and will be built up over here in the event that the fight gets made. As for the Whyte fight, Hearn don't call no shots over here and by him trying to do that might be the real reason for the push back. The business of boxing is rough and tumble and promoters protect their turf. No fight is a guarantee but the chances of Wilder losing to Whyte are slim and none and that's why I think that the real issue is Hearn.
     
  14. Manfred

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    Hearn can do what he wanna do in the UK. The Brits are gonna come out regardless to see AJ. Wilders promotion will be in the US and like I said, with the rivalry that exist in boxing between the two countries ( especially in the heavyweight division ) it would be a piece of cake to build the fight into a mega event. Wilder doesn't need to face any of those gents. All he needs is for the Joshua fight to be made.
     
  15. RG1885

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    But the US vs UK idea is bigger if people in the UK know who is representing the US side of things surely?
    Joshua has a rematch clase with Wlad, then a mando. So AJ v Wilder wont be happenig anytime this year anyway. While this fight is in the pipeline Wilder should make some decent money and get his name known in the UK, he can do that by beating Whyte.
    By not doing that a lot of people in the UK will come to the conclusion that AJ is fighting some bloke from the US who wouldnt get in the ring with Whyte.
    Im not saying there isnt more to it, but to look at it in its simplest terms at the moment;

    AJ v Wilder is next year due to contracts and mandos.
    AJ is huge in the UK, sold out a 90k stadium in his 19th fight and is known in the US = A-Side
    Wilder cant sell out his hometown and is largely unknown in the UK = B-Side.

    AJ made 15 Mil+ for his last fight (If i remember right)
    Wilder made 900k (If i remember right)

    AJ's next two fights are planned (Wlad and Pulev)
    Wilder has Stiverne and should then face Whyte.

    It builds the fight, the people whoo do know of Wilder and arent currently fans (due to the perception he fights bum after bum) will be more interested if he steps up a notch to fight Whyte, the UK will have a chance to see him on a platform and if he does a job on Whyte then people in the UK will see that AJ is going to have another competitive fight.

    If Wilder fights Stiverne and then another Washington-esque level fighter then the UK side of things will see it as Joshua vs "Some guy we havent heard of"

    Surely its a bigger fight if everyone knows who both fighters are and they know it could be competitive?
    And in the meantime, as stated multiple times he will get a career high payday against Whyte then even bigger money comes against AJ.