Wilder-Ruiz is a comical mismatch

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  1. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Member Full Member

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    1. 6’6 vs 5’11

    2. 83 inch reach vs 74 inch reach

    3. Fast feet vs slow feet

    4. Massive puncher vs relatively light puncher

    5. Good jab at long range vs no jab at long range

    6. Highly disciplined and motivated vs poor discipline and unmotivated

    7. Defeated
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    8. Won Olympic bronze in Beijing vs won the Mexican nationals

    9. 13 world title fights (10-2-1) vs 3 world title fights (1-2)

    10. Outpoints shorter slower men vs outpointed by taller faster men

    11. KO’d Morales, Liakhovich, Arreola and Ortiz x2 vs distance with more worn versions of Morales, Liakhovich, Arreola and Ortiz

    It gets worse for Ruiz: compared to Joshua, Wilder has superior stamina, mental toughness and (likely still) durability, he won’t underestimate Ruiz as Joshua and Ortiz did and for what it’s worth, Arreola, Ortiz and Ruiz’s former coach Sanchez strongly favour Wilder to KO Ruiz.

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  2. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And yet Ruiz will still be the best fighter Wilder will have ever shared the ring with not name Fury.
     
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  3. Redbeard7

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    He won't though, he'll look awful in there with Wilder because in reality he isn't nearly as good as Ortiz 3-5 years ago, who he was ducking and aging out since early 2020.
     
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  4. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4 Full Member

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    Finally some top heavyweights are fighting each other but some fans still have a problem with it lol
     
  5. Redbeard7

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    I have no problem with it, Ruiz is top 6 ranked and rightly so. But I don't see it as a competitive fight given Wilder and Ruiz's attributes.
     
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  6. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum: Reject The New Normal Staff Member

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    That's debatable, even though he dropped Ortiz 3 times, he still should've lost that match.
     
  7. 007 373 5963

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    I look forward to seeing the Ruiz comeback train getting derailed by the Bronze Bomber.
     
  8. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    Joshua- Ruiz jr is a comical mismatch.

    1. 6'5" vs 5'11"
    2. 82 inch reach vs 74 inches.
    3. Fast feet vs Slow feet.
    4. Massive puncher vs Light puncher.
    5. Good jab vs no jab at long range.
    6. Highly disciplined fighter vs poor discipline and unmotivated.

    I could go on but I won't. You see what you want to see and nothing more. Despite all the nonsense you typed out being identical to everything everyone said about Ruiz jr vs Joshua and about Ruiz during his entire career.
     
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  9. Redbeard7

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    Indeed. One of the KD's wasn't even legit. With neutral officiating Ortiz wins at least 7 rounds and gets a draw.

    And that's 43 year old Ortiz with 2 brutal KO defeats. Not 38 year old Ortiz with no defeats, or 40 year old Ortiz with 1.

    Ruiz had several advantages with the officials:

    1. Mexican-American rather than Cuban

    2. Ex-unified world champion and Joshua-conqueror vs 2x contender

    3. 10 years younger, fewer miles in the clock

    4. Hasn't fought Wilder, whereas Ortiz had twice already

    So Ruiz getting the nod in a close fight always made more sense for PBC.
     
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  10. Redbeard7

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    Refuted in my conclusion:

    "It gets worse for Ruiz: Wilder has a better engine, heart and (likely still) chin than Joshua and won’t underestimate Ruiz due to Joshua-Ruiz 1 and Ruiz-Ortiz"
     
  11. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    This.

    I hope Wilder pastes Ruiz but it's no gimme imo. It will be as easy or hard as Wilder makes it, and if he doesn't fight intelligently, it can turn into a hard night.

    And all the talk aside, Ruiz is a top 3 scalp for Wilder, and it's coming while Wilder will be 37 or 38 years old, in a situation where we still don't really know what he has left after Fury.

    We will see.
     
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  12. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Ruiz is not a light puncher.
     
  13. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Member Full Member

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    Relatively light but he's very good at finding the temple in exchanges. The fact that he caught Ortiz there made the Joshua temple shot look less fluky. But if you don't give Ruiz the chance to exchange then his power his limited, hence the litany of journeymen he's failed to stop on the front foot.
     
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  14. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder-Ruiz is way more compelling and watchable than Fury-Chisora III.
    The former will be exciting in that we know Wilder can really hit and Ruiz has a good chin, whereas
    the latter will have a predetermined winner...again.
     
  15. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Member Full Member

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    "Wilder-Ruiz is way more compelling and watchable than Fury-Chisora III."

    True but that's an exceptionally low bar.
     
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