Wilder-Ruiz is a comical mismatch

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  1. BeantownAll

    BeantownAll Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There's more than whiff of danger in this fight for Wilder.

    We all know how Wilder can end this fight quickly. He's the Secretariat of one-trick ponies.

    But he's hopeless at managing his distance to his opponent and falls into all sorts of traps. Ruiz Jr is an excellent counter-puncher and he's going to have no trouble finding his mark.

    It would have been much better if Helenius had been able to give Wilder even a little bit of useful work. He wasn't.

    But with that said, the edge is to Wilder because he can still (apparently) end a fight with one shot and he's still the sort of A-sider who will get deference from the judges.
     
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  2. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Member Full Member

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    "He's the Secretariat of one-trick ponies."

    Complete nonsense. Wilder can school Ruiz with a jab for 12 rounds if he likes, watch Wilder-Stiverne 1 and Wilder-Arreola. Even Wilder-Fury 1; Wilder was vastly more competitive boxing with Fury then Ruiz could ever be.

    "Ruiz Jr is an excellent counter-puncher and he's going to have no trouble finding his mark."

    Short + stubby arms + slow feet = massive trouble finding Wilder.

    "It would have been much better if Helenius had been able to give Wilder even a little bit of useful work."

    Wilder came away from that fight totally undamaged and with a renewed confidence and fear factor.

    "But with that said, the edge is to Wilder"

    It's not an "edge", Wilder will be the clear favourite.
     
  3. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Very good, but there's a blue print Ruiz can follow to defeat Wilder.
    Romanov is not big, but destroyed Wilder with ease.
    The question is if Ruiz will come in shape and if he will follow the blue print.
     
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  4. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Member Full Member

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    If Wilder had 2 years amateur experience and was 22 years old I would favour Ruiz but Wilder is 37 now with 17-18 years boxing experience.
     
  5. Beremith

    Beremith Active Member Full Member

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    I rank Fury higher than Ortiz for obvious reasons.
     
  6. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sure, after boxing for many years Wilder developed sophisticated technique.
     
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  7. MrBarry465

    MrBarry465 Active Member Full Member

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    I mean he has fought Fury 3 times .....
     
  8. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is a good fight to establish the pecking order
     
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  9. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Member Full Member

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    Sure, after 17-18 years boxing Wilder is no better technically than he was after 2.
     
  10. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Member Full Member

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    They like to pretend that fighting Fury three times and Ortiz twice is the same as fighting Fury and Ortiz once. And that Ortiz was no worse at 43 after two brutal KO defeats than he was at 38 and undefeated.
     
  11. Floyd #1

    Floyd #1 Member Full Member

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    When is this fight happening?
     
  12. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    Since when has Ruiz been 5'11?
     
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  13. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Member Full Member

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    Since his late teens/early 20's.
     
  14. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    Fear the slickness.
     
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  15. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 Full Member

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    It will look like Wilder vs Stiverne or Joshua vs Ruiz 2
     
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