Wilder showing tremendous power and speed

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  1. madballster

    madballster Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tell me, who have Ortiz and Fury beaten in the 36 months prior to fighting Wilder? What top contenders and elite HWs have they demolished before taking on Wilder?

    That tells you all you need to know about Ortiz and Fury.
     
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  2. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Boxing Junkie booted Full Member

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    Who are your top five heavyweights right now, if you're not including Wilder, Fury and Ortiz?

    Read 'em off for us.

    Tell us what we need to know about who should be in the top five.

    C'mon. Don't be shy. Who are the top five heavyweights right now?
     
  3. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think you missed the part where I explicitly and specifically typed "AFTER HAVING 40 ODD FIGHTS".

    The difference between Deontay Wilder and the other aforementioned heavyweights like Joshua and Fury, is that they've not had 40 fights, yet have faced SIGNIFICANTLY, and I mean SIGNIFICANTLY better level of opposition, especially relative to the same number of fights. And this much is not even up for debate!

    So as a result, the onus is more on Wilder to challenge better level of opposition, to prove he truly hangs anywhere near the best, than it is on the other guys who have done more. Fury beating a past-prime Wladimir Klitshcko (under 25 fights) is still LEAPS AND BOUNDS better than anybody Wilder has faced till date.

    And if anything, this further demonstrates the lack of quality in this era's heavyweight division.
     
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  4. Tyistall

    Tyistall New Member Full Member

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    #andstillduckingJoshua

    also, to quote Bruce Lee "boards don't hit back"
     
  5. kirk

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    Not looking good imo.

    Also his body looks like hes on something to me. But maybe hes just changed his training a bit to add a bit of size back on him.

    Anyways... I hope this padwork is not indicative of how he will look in the fight.

    Wilder is an odd case of someone looking better in their fights than they do in training. We'll see.
     
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  6. kirk

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    Wilders downfall will not be his chin.

    It will be his lack of IQ.

    Him not putting in place an elite team to actually maximize and facilitate his skillset... and is instead content with second or third tier coaches, will be his downfall imo.
     
  7. madballster

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    This. Wilder is dumb as a brick, the only thing that saved him thus far is he has the luck of the Irish.
     
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  8. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Great genetics

    Not so great boxing brain

    Gets the job done though!
     
  9. Ken Ashcroft

    Ken Ashcroft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Jesus! Breland looks old. I didn’t even recognise him.
     
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  10. Bondy365

    Bondy365 New Member Full Member

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    I'm a joshua fan, but the same can be said about joshua ... who in the 36 months prior to their AJ fight had the following beaten:
    Charles Martin
    Dominic Breazeale
    Wladimir Klitschko
    Joseph Parker
    Carlos takam
     
  11. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This. I haven’t seen him in person in 7 years, but he looks like he’s aged 20 years since then.
     
  12. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Like who...who specifically are you referring to? Furthermore are you suggesting it's Wilder's responsibility to make sure this mythical fighter is "well prepared"?
     
  13. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    K...(marked for bump)
     
  14. Tankatron

    Tankatron Active Member Full Member

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    Ortizn't fought Wilder on 5 weeks notice and Fury fought 2 Uber drivers prior to fighting Wilder and those are his 2 best opponents by a country mile. In Breazeale, we finally have a prime opponent fighting Wilder with a full training camp and not on the comeback trail after a near 3 year retirement. It's not the best opponent Wilder could be facing but, it is his mandatory so he doesn't really have a choice.

    When Wilder fights and defeats Fury, or Whyte, or attempts to unify, I may start getting off his case.

    Wilder is a walking, talking contradiction who spouts BS with far more force and rapidity than he punches, I mean, did you listen to that load of old drivel at the press conference today? I just cannot bring myself to like him and he continues to do everything possible to alienate himself from any rational boxing fan.
     
  15. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    I don't need a dissertation, I need a list of names, who are these prime, well prepared, elite guys that you are referring to?
     

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