Wilder: Still a Fraud, Still Glass-Jawed

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  1. Southpawology

    Southpawology Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nearly KO'ed in sparring with Wlad but a jab I think aswell?
     
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  2. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    It's Glass.
     
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  3. Southpawology

    Southpawology Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :rofl

    This time ur right Rico, and there actually is proof :good
     
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  4. WildersGlassJaw

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    Wlad is like George Chuvalo compared to Wilder.:yep
     
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  5. Bonecrusher

    Bonecrusher Lineal Champion Full Member

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    David Tua who had an iron chin as a pro was also knocked out as an amateur and in under 1 min, means nothing so try again..

    AND STILL WBC CHAMP!!
     
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  6. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Here's the problem with this argument - Tua actually fought live bodies in his pro career before fighting for a championship. Three years into his pro career he was fighting guys like Ruiz, Darroll Wilson and David Izon. A little over four years into his pro career he faced Ike Ibeabuchi!!

    Wilder was fighting total stiffs five years into his career, and only around that time began to face washed up "names" like Audley Harrison and Sergei Lykhovich - not guys who were big hitters even in their "primes." And two of the stiffs he fought had him on the canvas! :patsch

    To date, the only big hitter Wilder has faced was Bermane Stiverne, whose power may have been somewhat overrated off his fights with Arreola actually. And he was also sick. Wilder's fragile mandible basically dodged a bullet. But it won't for long!
     
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  7. Jacko

    Jacko Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Getting KO'ed in the amateurs and knocked down a few times in the pro's doesn't necessarily mean you have a glass jaw. I'm not saying Wilder does have a great chin or not, but the term glass jaw gets bandied about to much on here.

    Lets wait until he fights more guys at the top level before we make that judgement.

    We also have to take into account that Wilder is fighting at HW. Getting knocked down by a 200+ lb guy isn't out of the ordinary.

    As for the obese guy who knocked Wilder down - the problem shouldn't be that he got floored by the guy. The guy clearly has a lot of weight behind his shots. The problem is that Wilder actually got caught by this guy.
     
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  8. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    It's not just that. It's that he faced some of the most pathetic "opposition" I've ever seen a guy on the way up face, and for longer, in 35 years of following the sport. And historically, short of guys like Lamar Clark or Mac Foster, I can't think of fighters whose KO records were more manufactured.

    It is one thing for a fighter to face some softies in the first year or so as a pro, but Wilder did it for nearly 6 years. Stiverne was really the first decent fighter he faced, and in retrospect I think many of us were overrating him off the Arreola wins.

    There's a reason for this. And it's found right in Wilder's fragile chinny, chin chin!!!:deal
     
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  9. Greco

    Greco Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He wouldn't have ate the shots that he did from Stiveren if he had a glass jaw. That said, he still won't r able to take a flush shot from Klitschko when they fight. Granted, he may arch him early, but I think Klitschko lays him out around the 5th round.
     
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  10. Jacko

    Jacko Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wilder's record is padded, I can't argue with that. Although I would say he needed to be brought along slowly at first as he was incredibly raw coming out of the amateurs, but I do think his management could have upped the level of opposition much sooner.

    However, this doesn't make him chinny. Having a weak chin makes you chinny, not your level of competition.
     
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  11. Bonecrusher

    Bonecrusher Lineal Champion Full Member

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    The only point I was making was that just because someone is stopped in the Amateurs it doesn't mean they have a glass jaw. Many boxers have been stopped in the amateurs, and many of those same boxers went on to become tough durable pros.

    I get it you don't like Wilder, but until you see him knocked out as a pro the "glass" talk is kinda silly. I agree him fighting cans for so long is strange but he looked the part vs Stiverne.
     
    Bonecrusher, May 25, 2015
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  12. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Yup. Wilder's chin is still pure china. :nod
     
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  13. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    What's your proof? Some fictional overrated punch that you saw land on him? Imagine if you were posting when Ali went down from punches from Banks and Cooper lmfao. You'd have called Ali a ko waiting to happen. Taking punches from Stiverne didn't prove a thing huh? Did you scream the same thing about Wlad after the Sanders fiasco? How is Wlad's chin holding up now? #Clown #Owned :lol:
     
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  14. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Here's the evidence that Wilder's chin is PURE china. He can't even take a punch with headgear on! :lol:

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    And here's Wilder tasting canvas against the formidable Harold Sconiers, who had a 17-20 record when Wilder faced him (that's not Sconiers on the canvas, btw :lol:):

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    Oh, and he also hit the deck against morbidly obese Dustin Nichols, a typical Wilder opponent, btw (go about 40 seconds in):

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    The proof is clear that Wilder has a china chin, and his handlers know it. Why do you think he's 30+ fights into his fraudulent "career" and has faced - outside of Stiverne, who was sick - the worst stiffs his management could find?? He's now six years into his career, and still facing guys like Eric Molina???

    Molina is just the latest in a LONG line of carefully chosen "opponents" hand-picked to lose to Wilder to pad his fraudulent record. Once he starts facing top HWs who are at the top of their game, this con job ends.
     
    Zakman, Jun 7, 2015
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  15. keenly

    keenly Active Member Full Member

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    Pure glass
     
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