Wilder v Fury has turned out to be a ROARING SUCCESS

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  1. Security Service

    Security Service New Member banned Full Member

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    Fury now’s got a massive deal with ESPN (The biggest sports network in the world and owned by one of the biggest corporations in Disney)
    Wilder is now getting massive offers from DAZN and ESPN
    Joshua is now fighting in the US too, Concidence?

    US Heavyweight Boxing seems to be going through a boom period

    Let’s just go back to this time last year, Fury was coked out, Wilder was getting told by Hearn he’s a no-body and only deserves 70/30,

    Now just look how things have turned around. DAZN have come in, Wilder-Fury refreshed US Heavyweight Boxing, Joshua’s now coming. Things are looking good.

    But Wilder v Fury has to be looked at as a brilliant move now. Fury and wilder wouldn’t be getting these massive offers if it wasn’t for the fight.

    Wilder and Fury look very likely to get a 50/50 split from Joshua. Even Hearn has admitted that.

    Hearn was offering Wilder 15M to fight Joshua back in June, now Wilder has been offered 15M to fight Breazeale after the Fury fight.

    What a success that fight turned out to be and the after effects we are seeing. People are too busy focusing on that event individually, and talking about how it done 325K Buys, but not talking about how the rippl effects of that fight
     
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  2. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    It was always going to be a win-win situation for Fury, I dion`t know who Wilder`s going to fight now though or who will have the better opponent next, the depth of talent in the heavyweight division is vastly overrated.
     
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  3. Scissors

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    I’m not convinced it was that much of a success. If it was why do they need to let the rematch marinate? Surely you’d be riding the wave of such a roaring success?
     
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  4. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If it was that much of a success the rematch would be made immediately. Let’s be real.

    US HW boxing is only being held up by Wilder and that belt he somehow still holds, despite him losing clearly vs Fury.
     
  5. 305th

    305th Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Huge success by any measure. Who you think won the Fury Wilder match is irrelevant (oh btw two of the judges were Brits).

    There are now two more powerful dynamics at play in the staid HW division, along with the network power and managerial experience they bring, which is substantial. However, way you want to cut it, spin it or obfuscate figures around it.
     
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  6. Security Service

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    Your focusing on the Individual Event, rather than the ripple effect on the HW Divison. It’s a risk/reward game. Fury’s is now probably getting paid 8 figures to fight bums on ESPN, why wouldn’t you agree to that rather than getting into another dangerous fight with Wilder.

    Hearn’s offers to Wilder has now increased dramatically since the Wilder-
    Fury fight. See the ripple effects.

    Hearn has said he could offer 50/50 to Wilder for the Joshua. Just imagine this time last year if Wilder had asked for 50/50 ? Or even in June
    Hearn would have laughed himself to death....

    Wilder and Fury have both improved their leverage for a Joshua fight to both being potentially being offered 50/50. That is a direct consequence to the Wilder v Fury fight.
     
  7. 305th

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    Hearn has no intention of Joshua stepping into the ring with either for the foreseeable future unless they are prematurely shopworn with his chess pawns such as Whyte. There is a plan and they sticking to it, the only adjustment is they've chosen to move in on America faster than they'd have liked due to Wilder and Fury.

    Don't you get it, if MR truly wanted either we'd be counting down to it now and instead we have water-balloon Miller? Forget about all the Eddie twitter fodder about splits, contracts, negotiations etc that would all magically disappear if they thought for one second that Joshua has an easy time with either.

    This latest offer to Wilder is a red-herring for the football casuals on social media. Joshua will fight Whyte next after Miller, or some other recycled past victim or dwarf. If it is Wilder or Fury I will gladly change my avatar to one voted on by the forum posters.
     
  8. Scissors

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    If it was such a success fury could command upwards of 20 million for a rematch. Then since “he won” and it will be easy to do it again now he’s fitter he could then command more against these “bums”. He would be a massive star. He would earn a lot more money and ESPN would get a much better and quicker return on their investment.
     
  9. 305th

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    Ahh another accountant and business analyst. Trained via internship here, no need for 7 years of exams for you. No siree bob, you know it all.
     
  10. Scissors

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    Maybe I’ve already done them?
     
  11. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You've a real bee in your bonnet recently Scissors, what's the problem? Three great heavyweights active, huge fights to come in the future, all being paid handsomely. What's not to enjoy? The cream will rise to the top mate. I believe it will be Fury, but it could well be AJ and who knows, Wilder may catch both and spark them out cold.

    I just can't get my head around downplaying the achievements and success of anyone not named Anthony Joshua. For all the "Fury Fanboys" stick some of us get, at least most of us can respect the other two fighters. AJ fans really seem to be upset that he's not the only show in town. I just don't get it.
     
  12. Scissors

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    The problem as I’ve said many a time now is with all 3 of them. As a fan it’s ****. I want to see the biggest fights, whether that’s Fury v Wilder, Joshua v Wilder or Joshua v Fury. I’ll take any. As I said in a previous post (maybe in a different thread), any one of these 3 vs someone outside of the top 3 is a forgone conclusion and it’s uninteresting. Agree?
     
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  13. Hattonmad

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    Well, because Fury is only back, a fight or two against top 10 guys I can bare, because I believe he will improve and be better again for the Wilder and AJ fights. He's also already fought Wilder.

    AJ less so, because he's fought most of them already. He's a victim of his own success in that people are desperate to see him in with Wilder or Fury, because he's running out of competition. Hence the disappointing Miller fight.

    Wilder is the one I worry about most because he could lose in the meantime. I want to see him fight Fury or AJ ASAP with his 0 intact.

    I'm relaxed because I feel they'll all slowly be backed into a corner. We see it with Hearn now making big offers to Wilder. If Fury fights one or two top ten guys on ESPN, huge pressure will come to fight the big boys.

    In an ideal world they'd have all fought each other already. Boxing most definitely isn't ideal, but ninety-nine times out of one hundred, we get the fights we want. All are young enough not to become "past it" before said fights are made.
     
  14. Oreet Cha!

    Oreet Cha! I know what I like and I like what I know. Full Member

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    Since when was a Canadian a "Brit"?

    There was one British Judge. One.

    There are some reet thick people on this MB. Either that or they like to twist the real truth to suit their own narrative.

    As you were...
     
  15. 305th

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    So one American judge then. Thanks for proving my point.
     
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