Wilder v Fury II

True, but Wilder has shattered Fury's confidence.

Tyson went on to fight nobodies after the Wilder fight (and struggle against one of them).
Wilder decimated an old foe.
Tyson is THE BEST defensive fighter at HW - Wilder put him down twice.
Fury CANNOT keep Wilder off him for 36 minutes. Impossible.
Wilder will be confident because he dropped him twice, and then went onto lay someone out in his next fight.

Once that cut gets opened up, and it will, Tyson will panic. Then Deontay will stalk him and stop him.

 

I expected Wilder to flatten Fury in the first fight and expect the same again, however, Fury is one man I would never write off.

Somehow he managed to deliver at the highest level against the odds twice when a big outsider and no reason why he cannot surprise the world again.

 

Wilder put down a bloke who hadn’t been in a proper fight for 3 years, neglecting his body to the point he had to shed 9 stone of weight. This version of Fury hasn’t been out of the gym, is sharp, fit and focussed. I’d be stupid to say that Wilder can’t stop him but this is a much better version of Fury than the one who drew with Wilder last time out.

 

I never said it's hard to look good against Schwarz. I was pointing out the fact it's been said numerous times now that he looked poor against Schwarz. He didn't, he looked excellent. Again, no big achievement looking excellent against Tom Schwarz but he did and I don't now why anyone would say otherwise.

 

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Tony Hayers will be quick to jump on that empty arena behind Fury.

Seething is our Tony.

 

Very interesting some of the replies. Lets be honest Wilder is a bit of a one trick pony and I feel Fury wins more comfortably this time round as he'll now know where he let Wilder in and being the smartest fighter in the HW division, I feel he'll rectify these mistakes next time round. Wilder I feel will struggle to land his big right hand as he seems to struggle against moving targets such as Fury last time out and Szpilka a few years ago. Breazeale is very slow in all departments and was the perfect opponent to make Wilder look good as he is very easy to hit and doesn't move his feet, and Ortiz's stamina is poor as he was slowly tiring when they last fought to the point where he got lazy, dropped his right hand (a lot being Wilder's doing) and forgot to move out of the pocket. Fury won't make that mistake and will stay switched on all fight and cruise to an easy UD this time round. I also think that bringing in a new trainer is a genius move as it'll bring in new ideas for Fury and possibly force Wilder's team into a rethink as he'll tweak a few things for the better.

 

I think we’ll largely see a repeat of the first fight. Fury’s big fight tactics are never going to change. It’ll be low output spoiling from the start. Getting dropped and nearly stopped first time might simply make him more cautious. The interesting thing will be to what extent Wilder learnt in the first fight and how he can apply that to getting rid of Fury earlier.

I’m also cautious about the idea that we’re guaranteed to be seeing a better Fury this time. Based on what? Yes he’s now further away from the days when he was fat, but that doesn’t necessarily mean he’s been keeping busy lately. There was talk on here of Fury suggesting he wanted time off over Christmas and starting serious training sometime around now.

 

Yep I'm calling this exactly the same. I think Tyson is probably declining physically now - that distorted physique isn't the sort that's going to run smoothly into mid-thirties - and I can see Wilder stopping him. I think this is going to be a rerun from Fury but at some point he's going to get clocked, stopped, with hushed silence in the arena. I think it'll happen pretty early too. Rounds 4-6.

 

If you watch the first fight it took Wilder 11 rounds to stop aiming for Furys head and actually aim at his chest. When he did that he caught him.

Fury was ducking straight down alot in the fight, he needs to adjust that in the rematch as he was there to be caught.

 

Agreed.

I see Wilder really doing a number on him this time.

 

Why lie?

The posts are still on here. You can read the previews and see what people had to say. You can look at the odds the bookies posted.

The weird mythology that Fury was somehow a massive outsider that everyone thought was getting wiped out last time is pure fantasy. The fight was seen by many, many people as being between a master boxer-mover and a crude slugger who would get found out badly when he stepped up to a guy of Fury's defensive ability.

 

NICE ONE TONY LAD

 

A cautious Fury is very difficult to land sweet on. Wilder struggled with a scuffing shot in the 9th and a left hook in the 12th. He didn’t land the peach of a right hand that ices opponents. Klitschko couldn’t land a meaningful shot either. When he’s switched on he’s a very conservative fighter who doesn’t give opponents much opportunity to counter. This doesn’t mean he’s going to win, but I think you’re right in that we know how this fight is going to pan out. It certainly isn’t going to be a Gatti v Ward.

Personally, I’m a fan of both, if Wilder starches him then I hope it’s late cos I want to see some rounds.

 

I don’t remember that being the consensus. There was a lot of uncertainty about Fury’s fitness and whether he’d lost a few steps in those few years out. He’d looked rusty in the fights he’d had since.