Wilder v Fury II

I dont think it is Tone

I think people provided posts showing different to your accusation of another poster lying and you swerved direction tbh

 

I never said Wilder's resume was quality. It's not great at all. However, he's been a champion quite a few years now and his loss bracket reads '0' in 43 fights. He has a couple of common opponents who are at the better end of the great Anthony Joshua's resume, whom he stopped, and he also took Luis Ortiz's 0, which is a quality win. He also almost stopped Tyson Fury, something nobody else has came close to doing. It's a renowned opinion that nobody outside of AJ or Fury can beat Wilder. Like it or not his resume is one of the best in the division.

I'm just pointing out the sad fact Hayers is suddenly focusing on Deontay Wilder's resume, with clear intentions of discrediting Fury's win over him in February, if it indeed occurs.

 

Anyone is easier to arrange an AJ fight with than Wilder whose team point blank dont want the fight.

Fury might say he wants the fight but I don't belive Arum wants it eg turning down the AJ and Whyte offers to fight Schwarz and Wallin.

 

Renowned opinion than no one can outside AJ and Fury can beat Wilder? That maybe the main stream media spin but its aload of rubbish if you dont think the likes Whyte, Povetkin, Parker, Ruiz, Usyk, Hunter and Pulev don't stand a good chance of beating him (several of the guys have more impressive resumes and the rest have more impressive rseumes than Wilders best win in Ortiz).

With all the limitations and weaknesses Wilder has shown against limited opposition I wouldnt rule the younger guys beating Wilder in Hrgovic, Gassiev, Bakole and Dubois.

I just cant call Wilder resume impressive when theres half a dozen guys in the divison with more impressive resumes. Also has there been a WC in any divison ever with more padded record of such poor opposition as Wilder? I can't think of one boxer resume than comes remotely close.

 

The comments in the last couple of weeks, particularly by Hearn, were interesting. Made me think early discussions have already taken place.

If Joshua wants legacy fights - Fury vs Joshua at Wembley is one. It doesn’t even matter if Fury loses in feb, it’s still a huge fight which will make big money. Obviously both Fury and Joshua would want it.

 

Well in my opinion Wilder ices every man you've named and it is indeed a renowned opinion, not just in the mainstream media, that the top three are better than everyone else.

 

Wilder woukd have to fight them to prove it and it aint happening
43 0 i heard it reads
I can find fighter 30 0
Does this make said fighter feared and atg nope
This place as become real cliquey ***** esq almost
Agenda driven goal post moving shyte hole

 

Well its floored media narrative, that these 3 are superior to the rest (only AJ has a superiror resume to rest of the divison) and cant lose to anyone outside the "media 3".

AJ - has already lost Ruiz.

Fury -should of lost to McDermott.
Dropped by Cunningham and Pjakic, went life and death with Wallin and has looked shadow of his former since coming out of retirement.

Wilder - Dropped by Sconiers and Nichols. Hurt by Molina and Ortiz. Been out boxed in numerous rounds against Washington, Ortiz and Spzilka. The only notable fighter he beaten is a fighter who was supposed to be tailored made for him (slow inmobile footwork and with poor defence) who himself only beat 1 notable opponent 5 years ago in Jennings.

 

The point at the moment is that whoever loses in the Fury Wilder match will have their resume significantly weakened.

Fury will always have the Klitschko win, but he’ll have lost to Wilder, not fought Joshua, and not beaten anyone better than Dereck Chisora who loses every time he steps up. Wilder won’t even have the Klitschko win. He’ll have been a guy who was world champion for five years and beat nobody better than Ortiz.

 

Your Fury argument loses total credibility when you talk about a controversial scorecard from ten bloody years ago. I mean come on man. Are you really that desperate? I'll entertain you anyway. It doesn't matter how many times Fury has been dropped. It's heavyweight boxing. They all get dropped at some stage. The only time he ever looked in real trouble was against Wilder but he got up on time and had strong legs. He didn't look a shadow of his former self against Wilder, nor Schwarz. There's clearly still a quality fighter there and he showed against Wallin, the fight you mentioned, that even when underperforming and suffering adversity, he has the fight in him to pull out a clear UD victory.

'Hurt', 'dropped' - it's heavyweight boxing mate. That's kind of what happens. Only time Wilder looked in real trouble was v Ortiz and he's knocked him out twice since. He got lucky against Fury but Fury is rated as the no.1 heavyweight in the world by ring magazine. No shame losing to Fury.

 

And the winner will be ring magazine champion. The most prestigious belt of the lot.

 

Give over with your un biased based posts
You will not fit the clique
Good honest factual post
Happy new year sir

 

Nope fufy lost that fihht but kept the 0 due to politics / personal grudges
And you just want to ignore it
Sorry but its an atg robbery
10 rounds so what iirc it was for the english belt
Belitling and dismising to suit your driven adgenda
Bet you dont count hattons come back loss
Lol as and when it fits eh

 

Unbiased? The chap despises Tyson Fury. As do you.

 

The McDermott fight holds no relevance in today's discussion of H2H fights. Obviously.