Wilder v Fury II

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Scissors, Nov 19, 2019.


  1. Twentyman

    Twentyman ‘He’s just not that popular’ Full Member

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    True.
     
  2. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If AJ wants to be regarded at the no.1 heavyweight in the world he'll have to accept 50/50. Wilder or Fury will have a W or two over the other and will be ring magazine champion.

    FWIW, I think AJ will accept 50/50 just to get the fight made.
     
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  3. TonyHayers

    TonyHayers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Joshua sells out Wembley. Fury literally cannot give tickets away for his fight. You know this.

    So why should he accept fifty fifty?
     
  4. Scissors

    Scissors Ex British Forum Poster. Full Member

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    Can’t believe I’m being drawn in to this tedious argument once again.

    Here are facts.

    Joshua receiving nearly £100mil (rumoured) for his next fight. wilder got $12mil, Fury (anyone’s guess).
    It’s not even up for dispute who brings the most money and tickets to the table. If it were your money and you were in the same position then would you **** give a large chunk away.

    However from a fans perspective who just wants to see the fights (as it’s not my money). I think a fair way to do it is 60/40. Winner 60, loser 40. Then a rematch clause stipulating the same.
     
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  5. pow

    pow Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The point is nobody likes getting stiffed and that's why Wilder and Fury will shut out Joshua and Hearnz. They don't need him now he has an L (stock down) and will plan a trilogy fight instead. If Joshua has any ambition to get the fight done he better leave Hearnz when his contract is up. Ring magazine is up for grabs now and the winner of #WilderFury2 will be undisputed in the division.
     
  6. Furiouspillows

    Furiouspillows New Member booted Full Member

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    Well no, you can # tag all you want but its not going to change the FACT that that is not how undisputed works, at all.

    The ring magazine belt has become worthless in the last 10 years, nobody cares about it at all.

    When Wilder knocks Fury out it will likely end up being him vs Ruiz and the winner of that WILL be undisputed, but Ruiz will be the A Side and the fan favourite as he will be a mexican superstar.

    Wilder also needs to make the fight ASAP as his age is quietly creeping up and is going to start tobecome a factor within the next couple years
     
  7. pow

    pow Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ruiz does what his puppet master Haymon tells him to do and Wilder will use him like a piñata. The other belts are meaningless green gold is all that counts in the heavyweight division today. People trying to argue Joshua's worth right now is laughable. His worth at this moment is getting slapped silly by the Pillsbury doughboy. Lets talk figures AFTER December 7th.
     
  8. Furiouspillows

    Furiouspillows New Member booted Full Member

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    You know im a wilder fan right?
     
  9. Scissors

    Scissors Ex British Forum Poster. Full Member

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    Stock down but about to partake in the highest grossing fight on the heavyweight scene for how long? He might have an L but he’s still by far the biggest draw in the division. This fight with Ruiz is doing 6/7 times that of Wilder v Fury. And if they have a rematch it still won’t come near it.
     
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  10. TonyHayers

    TonyHayers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If they want the biggest payday they can possibly get then Wilder and Fury very much do need Joshua.
     
  11. pow

    pow Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not right now Tone, he has no belts and a big fat L on his forehead. Lets talk after December 7th because right now your boy is worthless.
     
  12. TonyHayers

    TonyHayers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don’t know if you’re just pretending to be stupid or just genuinely affected with the condition, but Joshua’s ‘big fat L’ doesn’t seem to have done much to his pulling power from a financial perspective.

    I don’t think you’re oblivious to the fact that boxing isn’t like most sports whereby earnings are dictated by ability. Joshua might not be the best heavyweight around, but there’s absolutely no argument that he’s the most popular and therefore top of the financial pile.
     
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  13. pow

    pow Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He needs to win Tone, otherwise your whole life becomes pointless. #December7
     
  14. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Umm
    A certain welterweight would lead you to believe otherwise
     
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  15. TonyHayers

    TonyHayers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I wasn’t even that bothered when he lost last time out so I’m sure I’ll struggle on. There will always be big punching exciting heavyweights to keep me interested in the sport.

    I agree in a sense that it will be interesting to see what happens if he loses again. He’s not particularly old, and there’s still massive money to be made. I could genuinely see the line being taken that Ruiz is just some sort of bogeyman for Joshua, and next up we get Joshua v someone like Chisora. His popularity could dip but I don’t see too much evidence of that. Come fight night people will be interested.
     


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