Wilder v Fury II

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Scissors, Nov 19, 2019.


  1. Naked Snake

    Naked Snake Active Member Full Member

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    I think AJ/Fury, when it happens, is going to be like Clay/Liston
    I think for reasons Andre Ward mentioned in his analysis. Basically, Wilder's team are enamoured with him and his powerful right hand, so they don't think he needs to develop anything else.
     
  2. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Its been a tough week and half getting a ban an hour after such a glorious moment haha
     
  3. nurological

    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What did you get banned for?

    All you missed really was Tony Troll discrediting everything he possibly could and making up lies. It's been quite funny watching it to be fair.
     
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  4. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    I watched a clip of Whyte watching the fight with Jonny Nelson and to be fair to him, he was making more cogent observations than the 'put it on him' line that he trots out to Kugan et al. Like many of these guys I think he's playing a role sometimes, but he does pay attention to his boxing and I think he knows more than he sometimes lets on.
     
  5. djfonti

    djfonti Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Aren't there strong rumours that Wilder doesn't do certain things in training and is surrounded by yes men? It might be him dictating the lack of variation.

    To be fair to him, he did try to use his jab more in the rematch. Even doubled it up and aimed at the chest. Except he was obviously expecting the Fury from the first fight.
     
  6. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    Maybe that's the case with Deas, but Breland was a good boxer and he trained at a good gym. I can't believe he hasn't tried to develop Wilder and add some different options.

    The simplest explanation is that they tried and failed, not that they never tried at all.
     
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  7. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    I believe i used an Irish form of a swear word

    Oh i've been watching and its been quite the show
     
  8. Heisenberg

    Heisenberg @paulmillsfitness Full Member

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    Breland was trained by George Benson and Lou Duva alongside Holyfield, Meldrick Taylor, Pernell Whitaker and Tyrell Biggs to name just a few. He must know you can’t be a yes man to your fighter at elite level.
     
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  9. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    I thought Breland trained out of the Kronk under Manny Steward?
     
  10. Naked Snake

    Naked Snake Active Member Full Member

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    He trained with both
     
  11. Heisenberg

    Heisenberg @paulmillsfitness Full Member

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    From Wiki - In June 1984, when he was preparing himself for the forthcoming National Olympic Trials, he went to Grossinger, New York, to train with the Kronks, there he sparred with the WBC Super Welterweight Champion Thomas Hearns, who in turn was preparing to fight Roberto Durán. At this time Breland has been trained by Emanuel Steward.

    Turned pro under Duva
     
  12. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's been estimated that 10 - 20 million people watched the fight on illegal streams.
     
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  13. Jurgen

    Jurgen Pay Per Pudding Advisor banned Full Member

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    If the Sports Channels reduce their subscription prices by 50% and got rid of PPV, nearly all households would be watching legally.

    There is no end to the greed of sportsmen even when already multi-millionaires.
     
  14. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    PPV will die soon, surely. This is the last hurrah. More and more people know they can get perfectly good streams with each passing PPV.

    The networks need to be thinking about alternatives.
     
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  15. Scissors

    Scissors Posts are sponsored by Matchroom Full Member

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    Got to be advertising. High cost adverts in between fights/rounds/on the ring/fighters attire etc.
     
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