Wilder v Fury II

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Scissors, Nov 19, 2019.


  1. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If it's blatant, prove it. Should be easy.
     
  2. SambaKing1993

    SambaKing1993 Don't do it Zachary! Full Member

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    I could easily say this in defence of Hearn on the multiple times you have quite rightly pulled him up on certain things.

    Somethings are just rather obvious.

    Just like if someone said “prove it was Joshua that sent the black superior race tweet”. I can’t physically prove it but the actions paint the blatantly obvious picture.
     
  3. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ah come on, your examples are way off.

    Hearn's lies are before our very eyes. We can see he's lying or passing the buck because we can hear his words clearly. Likewise a lot of Tyson's lies are before our very eyes, like when he contradicts himself. They're two liars and that's why they're both great promoters.

    As for AJ, the proof is in the video that shows it's AJ's real account with the blue tick. It shows the inbox message and then clicks directly from the message into AJ's real profile - not worth anybody's time to fake, if it can even be done.

    In regard to the charity donation, I just can't see why he would say it, and then not do it. He's minted and doesn't need the money for a start. He's a known charity giver. If it were to be revealed that he didn't do it, the man's character and all his hard work would be decimated. From a PR perspective alone, somebody involved with Tyson Fury is making sure he's covered because it's a PR disaster. Tyson Fury is big money nowadays, be it boxing against Wilder or AJ, or wrestling in WWE, writing books, singing songs, making documentaries or whatever. The exposure of such a lie could ruin all of that and his management/promotional team ain't gona risk all that. If he planned not to donate the promised purse, you can bet they've made him donate at least some of it. But more likely than that, the man who's done charity work for years has took it upon himself to do it as he said. He's questioned all the time. Do you think he thinks it's gona go away?

    Incidentally, it's funny how Fury basher Eddie Hearn never mentions it any more. Perhaps he was put in his place on the issue?

    Either way, the truth always comes out so sit back and enjoy the show...
     
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  4. Heisenberg

    Heisenberg Active Member Full Member

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    It’s an AJ fight week, Fury popping up on social media with something is as predictable as clockwork. He hates it
     
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  5. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just seen fan footage of Wilder's recent KO of Ortiz and it's a beautiful angle.

    For all the criticism Wilder gets, he actually boxed a perfect fight against Ortiz. He reserved his energy, didn't take too much punishment, allowed Ortiz to get both comfortable and tired, waited for his moment and unleashed the perfect straight right. His tactics aren't pretty on the eye and he looks lost in there at times. But I believe him when he says he knows exactly what he's doing and the finish is as technically good as you'll see.

    Just before he throws the finisher right hand, he paws out several weak jabs on the back foot. It gives Ortiz a false sense of security and invites him into range. Bang! Wilder steps in and delivers a crisp right hand down the pipe. It's quick and his technique is flawless.

    He's a really interesting fighter Deontay. I think Fury beats him but I don't see anyone else doing it. However, if the straight right lands flush it's goodnight. Notice that in the 12th v Wilder Fury rides the right hand slightly and it's the left hook that does the damage. That may have been his saving grace. That also means that in 12 rounds v Fury Wilder couldn't land his best shot flush, therefore he ain't guaranteed to do it in a second fight.
     
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  6. Wig

    Wig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Been listening to a lot of Bob Proctor recently (can vouch) and one thing he said made me think of wilder

    Wildly successful people all have one thing in common - they aren’t necessarily the smartest, they are quite simply the most effective at what they do
     
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  7. Scissors

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    AJ willing to go and help Fury prepare.

     
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  8. im sparticus

    im sparticus To The Upmost Full Member

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    I believe him as well. Not sure his team would let him go spar fury tho.
     
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  9. pow

    pow Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Smart move from Joshua. Getting bingo'd by Wilder will be career ending whereas a UD loss to Fury leaves doors open, also he gets to fight at Wembley. Get Fury to do the dirty work on Wilder then bring the fight to the UK.
     
  10. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    AJ knows PBC and Wilder have no interest in making a fight with him (as evidence and history has show) and that it's much more likely Fury would be more willing than Wilder to make the fight with AJ. AJ stating the obvious and triggering the LDBC fan girls naking them cry.
     
  11. Furious

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    I really hope Fury vs Joshua happens this year - it's a brilliant fight and the biggest fight in British boxing that could be made for many many years.

    It would be seen as a 50/50 for many and both should be in their prime right now - I can't be bothered with Fury fighting nobodies and Joshua getting caught up with mandatories like Pulev - Fury vs Joshua late 2020 would be fantastic.
     
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  12. Twentyman

    Twentyman John Fury’s nut sack.... Full Member

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    It would be brilliant for both fighters and there’s no better sparring partner than Joshua in prep for Wilder. The instructions are simple...try and take his head off.
     
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  13. Wig

    Wig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bit racist bit immature mate.
     
  14. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It would be pretty cool alright. AJ would benefit no end too, getting a real insight into Fury's camp and ability.

    Educate me lads; has there been many such occurrences where elite bitter rival world champions spar together?
     
  15. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sky sports news has a good article with Sugar Hill. He said Tyson came to him looking for technical training and that's what they'll be working on. That's great to hear. Peter was very technical with Tyson. Davison was great for morale and fitness but I think he left a lot of the action up to Tyson's natural ability.

    It remains to be seen how it all works out but I can see what Tyson is attempting to do, and I like where he's gone to. It only makes the rematch more interesting.
     
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