Wilder v Fury-poor ticket sales?!

In terms of the promotion I think they are putting the work in they have been on many TV shows, podcasts, etc, they are getting the media attention in seems. But even with this being Wilder's most high profile fight and having the biggest marketing push behind him we've ever seen it's not enough.

Huge movies with huge promotional budgets have bombed and this could very well be a similar situation. All the promotion means nothing if you're pushing a product people are not interested in. Wilder for too long was protected and that tarnishes a fighters reputation with the fans. Throw in an opponent that isn't a known draw and is more well known for his odd behaviour than fights in the ring and you have a fight people outside of hardcore fans don't care about.

If this fight fails to sell well it will only make it even clearer that without Joshua, Wilder has no options for a big payday and will weaken his position.

 

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You don't see it in other sports because in other sports match ups are not decided by the financials. I mean Lewis Hamilton in F1 doesn't decide if he's going to race Vettel or not in Mexico today based upon how much he and Vettel make do they.

Boxing fans only ever care about the financials when a fight they want doesn't get made. They want to know why a fight isn't happening and the promotional/network ties and financials is usually the reason and so it gets discussed in boxing unlike in other sports.

 

I remember Finkel and wilder talking about how it's easy to make more money from less tickets than a Joshua fight by just pricing it really highly, it is the biggest fight in the world after all. They said the same about the ppv prices, they actually mocked the British pricing for Joshua fights.

Maybe in their greed and in their desperation to try and match Anthony Joshua they have not given 2 shits about the fans and overpriced themselves.

 

Shouldn't they have tried to get a LA fighter with a good fanbase on the undercard.

 

You can just avoid such threads.

 

I'll tell you why. Because Wilder and his handlers told us multiple times they don't fight AJ because he is being sold short and "there are better opportunities for Wilder out there". So they picked Fury and thought this was a way to get more money down the line with less risk.

Fans like the ones discussing this topic are interested what party was right: Was it Wilder's team who said they were being ripped off by Hearn or was Hearn right who said Wilder is not a draw. That's the discussion at hand. We don't care who has what money in the bank account. We want to know the numbers because they are telling us who was right.

 

When the fight is made and signed we will not be discussing money or sales any more we can concentrate on the match up. But this match up that we are all waiting for has stalled big time and the blame seems to be about money, this is a Boxing forum, wed rather talk about the fight itself and we have, plenty, but right now it appears that both sides are focused on the money, the tickets and the PPV's. When both sides talk about this fight they want to use the numbers from this Wilder Fury fight to argue their case so it seems to be vitally impotant and if its vitally important to them the Boxing fans are guna talk about it.

 

There were any number of threads made about the same subject when Joshua vs Povetkin didn't sellout immediately, and it took them to the last minute to get to the 80,000 tickets sold mark. Didn't stop Joshua & Hearn haters from whopping it up everyday in threads just like this right up to the fight.

 

I think everyone is panicking way too early. If it wasn't for this bum youtuber who reviews ticket sales over a month before a fight, we wouldn't even be talking about this.

When Wilder fights a cab driver in Alabama, where are the threads about ticket sales?

When Fury fights a plumber in manchester, where are the threads about ticket sales?

Both still got paid millions for those fights.

You can get tickets to Joshua fights for $30 and the English public have a culture of going to boxing fights for the experience of getting drunk and having big sing-alongs. It really is less about casuals actually caring about Joshua, and more about tagging along with your friends for a night out.

This is only being spoken about because for some reason you all expect this to sell like a Fluid or Alvaroid fight. This will still be a top 5 highest revenue earning fight of 2018. I dont know what else you guys expect. Come back 3 days before the fight and I guarantee that it's 90% - 100% sold out.

 

Seems the bigger % lies with Aj
So about that flat fee
good business move lol

 

We dont expect it to sell like that, Wilder and Finkel are trying to tell us it will, sounds like they have certainly priced it like a Floyd or Canelo fight, and we dont believe them and we are talking about it while we wait to find out, and we are waiting to find out because we all want the same fight to happen next and it appears the numbers that come out of the Fury fight are going to be instrumental in regards to how negotiations may play out or not play out for the Joshua fight.

 

The point of the you tuber being that Dillian Whyte sells out an arena the size of the Staples center in a week, Anthony Joshua an Olympic sized stadium, and thats not even against each other.
It looks very silly calling a fight the biggest in the world against supposedly the 2 best heavyweights in the world when the promotion cant even put together an undercard, sell tickets, and more than likely PPVs either.
The 2 best heavyweights in the world are in the UK laughing their tits off.

 

You might be right as there's still 5 weeks to go, but this is quite a different situation than the average Fury and Wilder fight as there wasn't the need to prove they can draw like before as this fight is being staged as leverage for the winner to negotiate with Joshua.

Nobody expected Wilder to sell out vs some cab driver, there was no expectation there.

Fury has actually been selling well since his return his last 2 fights looked sold out or close to it.

Yeah both were paid millions but they are not asking for millions vs Joshua they are asking for potentially 10's of millions if they ask for 50/50, which is many times more than either have ever earned for one fight.

You can't get Joshua tickets for $30 cheapest for his last fight were £40 which is about $50. But you could also get tickets for £2000 which is more than any ticket for Wilder/Fury.

Nobody really expects it to sell like Canelo or Mayweather, it's Wilder the one who is saying it will do 2.5 mill buys. Not even his biggest supporters think that will happen.

 

Yeah I read it was £40 as well but shorted it to $30 to make what I was saying seem more impactful haha