Wilder v fury

Yes because I'm sure Eddie would deal with Fury sans Warren without prejudice and with complete honesty and transparency.

 

I saw Tyson in the Trafford Centre yesterday, he's looking lean.

 

I was worried that Fury might have seen his fight with Wilder as mission accomplished. Came back from the brink and beat him in a thrilling fight with one of the most memorable moments of recent times in a boxing ring. I feared he might have lost the motivation again having achieved the unthinkable, and went riding off into the sunset and away to get fat again over Xmas. So I'm delighted to see him staying fit and focused. Hope he gets that win over Wilder that he should've got the first time.

 

Yes I am sure the judges will be fair a second time around....

Actually no they won’t be.

So unless Fury discovers some lead in his pencil and uses it to force the TKO/KO, he is getting stiffed on the cards for a second time around. This time though I think the judges land him with the L instead of the D.

 

Roach said Fury needs to be more active, and I personally don't know of a guy who supposedly takes so many people to school whilst landing so little and never looking like he's hurting them.

My concern if I was a Fury fan would be Wilder now thinking Fury can't hurt him and knowing he can hurt Fury, whilst Tyson, who was nearly knocked out, becomes even more cautious and therefore less likely to win rounds clearly.

 

So Fury never hurt Wilder in that fight?

 

No, not really. I mean, obviously punches from a giant heavyweight professional boxer are going hurt in a sense. But I don't think Wilder was ever in any serious bother. Certainly not as much as he's previously been.

Ever since Fury became as defensive as he is he's never really looked like causing much damage at all. There's a lot of 'he can definitely hurt/stop' talk from Fury fans. You know what's more convincing than being able to stop people? Stopping people.

 

He hurt Wilder twice in that fight but ironically it was the 12th round when he hit him with a big left hand. For the rest of that round from that single shot, Wilder went into survival mode.

I agree that he does need to take more risks. He steps off as soon as he throws to avoid the counter, as such he doesn’t get the full purchase on his shots that he’s capable of. Joshua and Wilder both plant their feet and seemingly transfer the whole weight of their bodies into the shot. It’s brutal power but it does mean they can get caught.

 

It is fair to say that Fury buzzed Wilder a couple of times, but never looked like ever stopping him.

Meanwhile Luis Ortiz who is officially 39 but more like 45, almost forced the referee to jump in and wave it off towards the end of the 7th round in their fight. He had Wilder on another planet.

Fury is going to need to force the TKO/KO in the second fight to get the win, and I have severe doubts over his ability to do that. Another pitter patter low output "win most of the rounds" performance isnt going to get him the decision in the rematch, and that is his go to tactic in every big fight. It is going to take a change in his mindset to do the job and win the rematch.

 

Were your suprised with how much time wilder took off during rounds, especially when he wasn't under any serious pressure?

 

Wilder isn’t high output and takes time off during rounds in all of his fights. I don’t think the Fury fight was any different to all of the fights I have seen since he won the WBC strap from Stiverne and stopped facing roll over jobs.

Because he puts so much into his punches it drains him and he needs to pace himself. Similar to how Haye operated at HW in actual fact. Explosiveness and putting everything into it, followed by posing and moving around to regain energy. He is looking for the KO and not concerned about the judges cards, and winning every round on the judges cards.

 

Ha he looks like a wax work there!