Wilder v Joshua - Who Wins ? (Post Parker fight Edition)

Wilder stays at range and only closes the distance when he's ready to throw. He has Joshua and Parker covered on handspeed and reflexes by a good margin.

 

No, Joshua stops him early and makes it look very easy.

 

I'm thinking you don't understand boxing very well. Wlad drilled Joshua with Wilder's money punch. Joshua is upright and vulnerable. Wilder deliberately doesn't engage his better opponents early, which is why it's likely that virtually nothing will happen for the first four rounds.

If Joshua wins, he'll probably have to survive some scares to get a decision or late stoppage.

 

Actually that is you.

Wilder is very cautious at the start of his fights. Joshua is the better boxer, and will set up the counter and hurt Wilder. Once Wilder is hurt Joshua will open you with his aggressive power punching combinations and stop Wilder. Wilder is a C level boxer with a good right hand, Joshua is the full package. Easy KO of Joshua.

 

The Parker fight will only help Joshua , it will help him BC he went 12 rounds against an active jabber.

Wilder isn't an active jabber so he offers less resistance on a come forward fighter like Joshua. Wilder doesn't like jabs thrown his way.

It will be an easier fight for Joshua but a more dangerous one which is why he's not going to coast, he will end it sooner than later and not want to risk carrying the fight to later rounds. It will be exciting but won't go long.

 

Wilder can take a punch better than AJ. I back Wilder to take AJ's best shots but can AJ?

Wilder has better stamina and endurance than AJ.

High chance Wilder can go into windmill mode and get the ko against AJ

 

The general consensus is that Wilder finally stepped up against Ortiz, but he was exposed. We’ve seen him outboxed on a few occasions against lesser fighters, but Ortiz was able to hurt him, being an elite fighter. In boxing 1 plus 1 doesn’t always equal 2, but the general assumption here is solid. Wilder’s boxing fundamentals are lacking, while Joshua’s are not. Wilder can be evasive, but that’s not the same as being elusive. I reckon Joshua will manipulate him into position, and Wilder, unlike Parker, will not respond well.

 

I favored Joshua 60/40 before last night and tip it the same way today. It's foolish to analyze the matchup based on their respective bouts against Parker and Ortiz. Although Wilder has an advantage in speed and power, he's irresponsible in exchanges to the point of recklessness, but thus I think he's likely to get stopped.

That said, Joshua would have to step on the gas earlier than he prefers. The longer it goes, the better for Wilder. I suspect Joshua by KO in 3-4 rounds, but Wilder with a mid-to-late stoppage hardly would surprise. People speaking about this fight in certainties are just fanboys or haters. Both of them are too talented *and* too flawed to make too strong a prediction.

 

Nobody ko's either of these fighters easy
Most on here need to think before posting, just take a couple seconds to make sure you don't should utterly ******ed with the post

 

He wasn’t exposed against Ortiz. He answered a lot of questions about chin, late power/stamina, and heart. Ortiz is also a southpaw and landed a punch from a weird angle. He has Joshua covered on speed, power, reflexes, and stamina.

Joshua should be able to nick rounds. Nobody seems to have given a reason why he will be able to avoid being drilled by Wilder’s overhand right though. He already got put on his a as by a 40 year old, inactive Wlad with the same punch.

 

the guy’s Frank Bruno 2.0

 

My prediction isn’t conclusive. I get that there are some on here that are 100% for one or 100% for the other. I’m not. Wilder is dangerous and reckless, which can make him extremely dangerous.

I do think he showed a lot of characteristic qualities against Ortiz that we hadn’t seen before. But I also think Ortiz exposed Some of Wilder’s weaknesses.

We’ve seen Wilder being outboxed against a few lesser fighters before, but Ortiz showed us what might happen if you outbox him, and you have some end product.

Of course Joshua was exposed against Wlad. I would never argue otherwise. A younger Wlad would have beat him.

Anyhow, I favour Joshua, but I fear that if he’s to hesitant that Wilder will eventually land something big.

 

We’ve become so accustomed to seeing Joshua knock people out but it’s not realistic to expect him to do that against everybody he meets in his career, no Champion at any weight has ever achieved that!

Parker obviously 100% bought into the idea that Joshua would suffer stamina problems late in the fight but the reality was that Joshua finished the fight stronger than Parker. Joshua worked superbly well behind an authoritative jab and let the power shots go when the chance arose to do so, it was very much out of the Lewis v Tua handbook.

The fight wasn’t a classic but neither was it awful but there again not all fights can be amazing to watch, it doesn’t diminish the skills and technique on show though.
Styles make fights!

What we learned about Joshua last night was that he has a much better jab than we’ve seen before, he’s patient enough to stick to the game plan and to wait for opportunity rather than rushing in, he can keep his hands high and offer little opportunity to his opponent, his stamina is more than adequate to go the distance and we already knew he carries his power into the late rounds (11th Rd KO of Klitschko), he moved his feet well going side to side, backwards and forwards but most impressive of all he judged his distance to perfection. All of that coupled with what we’ve previously seen from him i.e. his immense power, ability to throw 3 & 4 punch combinations, sheer size and bloodlust for a war makes him a nightmare for Deontay Wilder.

Wilder has a punchers chance and there’s dynamite in that long swinging right but we’ve seen Joshua get hit hard by one of the hardest punchers in Heavyweight history and get back off the deck to win. Deontay would have to improve his footwork and jab immensely if he’s going to create an opportunity to land his right hand before Joshua lands on him. If he can’t and Joshua lands first then Wilders chin and punch resistance won’t handle the power while Joshua will jump right on him and finish the job.

It’s still a dangerous fight both ways but ability, technique etc point strongly toward Joshua

 

At this point, Wilder might KO him in 1 round.

 

My opinion on this fight changes like the wind.

After last night, I again now have no idea.

The only thing I do know is that AJ is a walk in the park for big Tyson Fury. Last night solidified that view