Wilder v Ruiz Cinco de Mayo MGM Grand

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  1. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Boxers tend to be overbilled, some slightly and some by a huge amount. Ruiz is likely in the 5'11-6' range, he's way overbilled. Look at him in face-offs with Arreola, who is billed as 6'3 (though he's probably not that tall judging by his face offs with Adamek) and Ruiz looks a lot shorter. Ortiz is often listed as 6'4 but in the amateurs was billed as just under 6'2, he's also a lot taller than Ruiz. Fury isn't two inches taller than Wilder, more like an inch. Mike Tyson was often billed as 5'11 and three quarters when he fought but is today said to be 5'10, and so on.

    In the case of Ruiz and Wilder I think it's significant to mention the revised heights because it's not a 5 inch difference (which would be huge in itself) but more like 7 inches. This would be the biggest height difference between Wilder and an opponent since he fought blown up super-middleweight Damon McCreary over a decade ago.
     
  2. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    I see nothing wrong with this fight. Two guys in the top 10 heavy weight ranking going at it. Don’t know what the complaint is about.
     
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  3. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "If Wilder was this Foreman-esque demolisher, he would've been flattening his upper echelon competition a lot quicker."

    This is a misreading of the situation because Wilder is primarily a conservative sniper, not a pressure fighter or a brawler. Kownacki got Washington and Szpilka out in 2 and 4, Arreola got Molina out in 1, Stiverne got Arreola out in 6. Wilder is almost universally recognised as harder puncher than these fighters and a vastly harder puncher than most of them. He's happy to take his time while barely getting hit, he doesn't care too much about rounds because against most opponents he wins them automatically and his usual plan is to KO the opponent, which sooner or later he's always done against fighters like Ruiz. If Wilder connects early with a flush right hand he usually gets a 1st round KO. Stiverne 2 and Breazeale got caught early and didn't make 6 or 7 rounds as they did against Joyce and Joshua. Liakhovich and Manswell got caught early and didn't go all 10 or 8 as they did against Ruiz and Chagaev. The only fights in Wilder's career where he performed poorly in my view are Sconiers, Molina and Fury 2 (and even there his determination was always good).

    Ruiz may have his moments but I don't think there's much he can do if Wilder keeps him on the end of a jab as he did Stiverne 1 or Arreola.
     
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  4. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I favor Wilder by KO but its going to be the.....third or second best heavy Wilder has ever faced (below Fury and Ortiz?). Two top ten heavys fighting what's not to like
     
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  5. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

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    If Wilder beats Ruiz it will the best win of his career for sure. If Ruiz beats Wilder it would be his 2nd best win.
     
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  6. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    I doubt pbc would want to go up against Canelo. I needs me a link.
     
  7. Sonny1

    Sonny1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    https://www.*****.net/2023/02/08/deontay-wilder-vs-andy-ruiz-jr-date-venue-held-pbc/

    I have tried to link, for some reason the stupid moderators have cut the WBN website link. Pasted a bit below:

    World Boxing News understands the date and venue for Deontay Wilder vs Andy Ruiz Jr. are marked on the Nevada State calendar.

    Wilder will lock horns with Ruiz Jr. in a Pay Per View blockbuster this spring for a shot at the WBC heavyweight title.

    However, looking at the Nevada State Athletic Commission calendar for May, Wilder vs Ruiz seems to be heading to Las Vegas on Cinco de Mayo.

    Al Haymon has just contests nearing completion for an announcement. They are Wilder vs Ruiz and Errol Spence Jr. vs Keith Thurman.

    No other significant fights worthy of headlining on the famous Nevada strip are in the works for the next three months. This means a date of May 6 booked at the MGM Grand can only be for Wilder vs Ruiz or Spence vs Thurman.
     
  8. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This fight just seems hilarious.
    Ruiz getting wildly KO'd on Mexican international day, then Hearn's excuses for the AJ brand, then AJ's potential meltdown ... all great stuff.
    If Ruiz somehow manages to avoid the bombs and bombs out Wilder, that would be head-scratching comedy. Wilder would have a brand new set of crazy theories for everyone to consider too.
     
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  9. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    If this fight does happened and Canelo wants to have one on the same day, he better have a good opponent or it will be very bad PPV.
     
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  10. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Ruiz will only get up for this fight because he thinks Cinco De Mayo is some sort of sandwich.
     
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  11. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I feel sorry for all the fans who missed out on the early/mid 90s when a typical Don King extravaganza would just stick fights like ...

    Deontay Wilder vs. Andy Ruiz
    Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman
    David Benavidez vs. Caleb Plant

    ... on the same card ... and toss in Tim Tszyu vs. Tony Harrison as the opener.

    And that would be considered a "light" card, as it only features one title fight.

    Now, they're four separate shows.

    The older I get, the more I feel like there really aren't truly "bad" eras in boxing ... just eras where promoters don't know how to put on deep, rich full cards ... and eras where promoters DO.
     
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  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I will never tire of watching The Dosser get beaten like a dog and hopefully there are many more biblical shellackings to come for him.

    My hunger was sated after Baptisms I and II but I'm practically starving now after that elongated king of the hype jobs bum accused Usyk of cheating.
     
  13. One more round

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    Forget who wins I will just be happy to see a decent match up. It won’t be as easy for Wilder as people are saying but I would favour him for the Knockout.
     
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  14. kdyehs

    kdyehs Active Member Full Member

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    The pre-Fury Wilder beats Ruiz handily. The post-Fury Wilder probably does also. I don't know what is left inside Wilder at 37 years old and two KO losses. But he looked pretty sharp and convincing for his comeback. I don't think he is shot yet. And because of that, I give him the win here, by KO. Maybe Ruiz is still close to his self version that has beaten Joshua once, but this guy deserves to pay for his lack of physical attributes, or should I say, his excess of physical attributes : at some point Hollywood will stop writing movie script for him. Add to it that he is just an inside brawler with quick hands. Wilder will have too many opportunities to land the big shot, and he can deal with some occasional inside pressure. Styles make fight? Wilder can't ask better here. Fat beluga will just run against Wilder shots.

    Wilder by KO.
     
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  15. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    Personally I'd watch this match before a Canelo-Ryder joke.
     
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