Wilder v Stiverne 1 and Wlad v Peter 1

It is my understanding that a past-prime Wlad shared the ring many times with a young Wilder in sparring and destroyed him. Knocked him out cold several times. Wlad is a MUCH more skilled boxer, has a higher Ring IQ, and has just as much power as Wilder. (And, Wlad carries it in both hands, unlike Wilder) Their chins are close to the same. Neither has a very good ability to weather hard shots. With Wlad's chin and Wilder's power anything is possible. But, what is most likely is that Wlad wastes Wilder 8-9 times out of 10.

 

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His own manager not wanting him to take the fight which tells you all you need to know.

 

I agree, even though I “heard” Wlad beating (a green) Wilder in sparring I think Wilder KO’s Wlad cold in a match. Wilder’s chin is also way better than Wlad’s.

 

Every fighter fully blossoms at different times. How about 33-34 year old Wilder in with 33-34 year old Wlad?? Different breed of fighter Wilder would be up against huh.

And that Sam Peter (Before getting his chin cracked) KO’s Stiverne.

Do us a favor… don’t even mention Wilder and Wlad in the same sentence again

 

Fresh take.

I like it.

Wilder's first fight against Stiverne is an underrated performance. Wilder broke his hand when he floored Bermane and basically had to box his way to victory.

Many fighters in their first title fight would've panicked after breaking their hand and losing their best offensive weapon so early in the fight.

But we've learned over the years that Wilder has a true fighter's heart.

Under distress early in his career, Wlad fell apart against Purity. He collapsed in a heap against Brewster. Wlad even kind of wormed his way out of the Davarryl Williamson fight after getting dropped. To his credit, though, he did keep getting up against Sam Peter.

An actual fight between Wlad and Wilder at similar ages would've been interesting.

 

I seen them spar when Peter was champion and Stiverne was undefeated and up and coming, it was even so I’m not sure it’s a definite Peter’s win.

Fun info, I had sparred Stiverne a few times before that, nothing crazy but good sparring. I was only around 215lb at the time and when I was asked to “jump in” my answer was a quick “**** NO!”, when they sparred it was definitely crazy.

 

Peter's two bouts with Toney shame Stiverne's entire pathetic career. Prime for prime peter ko's Stiverne inside four rounds.

 

You'd better be careful, your dealer is slipping high doses of fentanyl into your blow.

 

Sam Peter was better than Stiverne.

Wlad was past his best vs Fury.

Wilder hits incredibly hard, maybe even harder than Wlad did.