Wilder v Trevor Bryan possibly in May

Probably but he also might underperform given the circumstances.

Wilder didn't exactly look great against opponents of similar stature to Helenius even though he scored the knockouts in the end.

 

he had four years to face whyte
never wanted that smoke
i will make you wait another four statement said it all

 

I'm a Whyte fan and don't like Wilder - but Whyte has turned down several opportunities to either compete directly for a world title or to box a final eliminator.

This myth around Whyte is remarkable.

 

Good fight if it happens. Expected a rematch against his coach. Trevor Bryan is a decent opponent. No idea why ppl complaining about this. What do you guys expect? Wilder vs. Parker?

 

the fact is wilder refused to fight his mandatory and stated he would just keep on foing what hes been doing and make whyte wait another four years
hes stating corruption is and was going on right there
he then about turned in London on his way to russia
wilder is a fraud end of

 

I can't remember the whole timeline. It seems to have been ongoing for years.

It seems that Wilder didn't want to fight Whyte, and ended up embroiled in an unwanted saga with Fury based on a cherry pick gone wrong.

Whyte, who has been fairly brave up until this point has still avoided certain bouts that would have supposedly have given him a title shot and also rejected the chance to fight Joshua but granted that was short notice.

I think Whyte probably did and does want to fight Wilder. Then what has gone wrong? Does it all stem from the WBC and they are telling Whyte to jump through too many hoops? I honestly don't know. Why did Whyte reject Ortiz and Breazeale? I don't know if the WBC were protecting Wilder by feeding him worse opposition than Whyte.

 

theres was no guarantees if whyte beat either ortiz or breazale detonay would fight him
hence why bother
he still as a better cv than wilder in half the fights
wilder is the biggest fraudulent hw ever

 

If he negotiates the tricky match with Bryan he's going to offer a rematch to another of his memorable dance partners

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Next to Vegas Hooker this was maybe his fiercest opponent.

 

No issues here, he’s coming off back to back losses and has taken a pasting.

 

I don't think people who were realistic were expecting a top 10 opponent like Parker, especially as Parker is rebuilding with a new trainer. But a top 20 opponent would of been nice and no Bryan isn't top 20 for me, his best win is a shot to hell Stiverne and he didn't look good beating him in fact he looked like a journeymen. Bryan for me is really no better than guys like Molina, Szpilka or Duhaupas when they fought Wilder and he might not even be that good, he might be no better than Arreola now or Washington, he's just never fought anyone even remotely half decent.

Wilder against someone like Helenius, Takam, Hughie Fury etc would of been more acceptable to me than Bryan who I think even on Wilder's worst day poses literally zero threat, he's truly awful. I'd pick Helnius, Takam and H.Fury to beat him.

He didn't reject Breazeale he accepted Breazeale, they were set to fight for the interim title, but Fury signed with ESPN which delayed his rematch with Wilder so Wilder was left without an opponent and so he picked Breazeale which left Whyte without an opponent so the WBC mandated he fight Rivas instead for the interim title, which Whyte agreed too believing he'd become mandatory as it was a similar situation to what happened with Breazeale when his eliminator with Stiverne fell through and was ordered to fight Molina to earn his mandatory status.

 

I think Wilder needs a tune up before taking on the legendary Trevor Bryan.

Perhaps the near legendary Christopher Lovejoy would be a tough but more realistic comeback fight.

 

How much of the time line would you want?

This has been discussed and resolved at a painful length in multiple threads this past week alone, that we've both been posting in.

Pretty much, but he wasn't ordered to fight Molina, but close enough. He got to choose Molina as an opponent. Molina actually wouldn't have been the mandatory challenger if he had won that fight (according to Sulaiman anyway, but he is variable as the wind).

Actually, Whyte called out Breazeale prior to any talk of a Stiverne choosing Breazeale as a tune up. Then Breazeale rejected an offer to fight Whyte and chose Molina instead. He said Hearn wasn't offering enough, and something about being confident Uncle Al would take care of his career the right way, and up popped Molina.

And of course the WBC supported all this, whilst ignoring that Whyte won an eliminator the previous year against your avatar.

I don't think I ever watched this. So cheers for posting it. Let's find out what Bryan looked like in his last outing.

The commentary team have an interesting dynamic:

A: "That's actually surprising that Stiverne has 2 inches of reach on Bryan"
B: "Well... Not really, not really"
A: "No?"
B: "No, it's not"
{Pause}
A: "Okay, I'll...I'll...defer to the champ."​

This is going to be a difficult watch I can already tell

Edit: combined the posts, don't want to derail this thread going over Whyte again.

 

That round by round was wild. Just watched this fight, Stiverne was all but done by the half way stage, and just looking for a big right hand every round whilst eating numerous jabs, I'm surpised how many rounds people gave Stiverne. For me it was pretty much a one sided fight, once Stiverne's arms started dropping and his movement slowed right down after about the 4th.

But, Bryan looks tailor made for Wilder to be honest. Doesn't really move off the line, likes to work behind a jab (which is a very solid one) but will be at a clear height and reach disadvantage. He might be able to outjab and push Wilder back for a couple of rounds. But he got caught by Stiverne's overhand right again and again. His defence being to lean backward or just step back in a straight line is not going to cut it against Wilder. I wouldn't be surprised if it's another Breazeale-esque poleaxing.

Bryan is okay, but I don't know why they would try to match him with Wilder except to sell his belt.

Oh and I hope Stiverne has retired or limits himself to 8 rounders

 

Wilder is entitled to an easy fight after the two KO beatings at the hands of Fury.
Anyone who thinks otherwise is being too harsh.