Wilder v vitali defences

Because I didn't know that everyone did.

I agree. For the most part anyway I have Golota Byrd an actual draw. Holyfield on the other hand clearly lost, worse than Wilder imo.

 

It's not Vitali love. It's primarily a British board and they don't like Wilder, because he steals the thunder from Fury, Joshua and Whyte. That's it.

When Wilder retires, and goes into the Hall of Fame on the first ballot, they'll all forget how they badmouthed him through his entire title reign.

British boxing fans were the worst to Lennox Lewis during his active career. I remember arguing with many when boxing message boards were first introduced. Now, they all love him and most think he's a top five or top 10 all-time heavyweight. (And it's not like he added more fights to his resume after he retired.)

Some people aren't the sharpest tools in the shed when it comes to surveying active fighters.

 

I don`t have problem with anyone opinion, cause the end of the day everyone have one. But atleast try to be a little bit unbiased ....
Vitali quit against Byrd, because he was missed? How so, when he was leading on all scorecards 88-83, 88-83, & 89-82?
Vitali decide to stop, cause he had suffered a torn rotator cuff injury.
It`s fun how people who probably never step in a boxing ring are criticize fighters of any thing.
You would probably go out and cry like a woman, after just 1 round against average boxer, what left fighting with a serious shoulder injury or with a cut that Vitali had in a Lewis match.
I don`t care much about resume, cause Wilder is protected as hell, but i`m pretty sure Vitali would have KO both Wilder and Fury.
Both stood no chance against prime Vitali or prime Lewis or prime Klitschko.
And as far as resume goes still Vitali.

 

Their title challengers are the same level. Vitali fought one lineal champ and only lasted six rounds. Wilder successfully defended against Fury and dropped him twice. That's the difference to me, when it comes to opponents.

Heart is another matter. Wilder has suffered a broken hand and a torn bicep (rolled up) - both of which required surgery to repair - in the same title defense and still scored a TKO win. Vitali suffered a rotator cuff injury in a fight he was leading and quit. His corner didn't stop it. Vitali did. They were as shocked as anyone. Even HBO didn't believe the translator who was listening in to the conversation in the corner until the ref waived it off.

And Vitali didn't ko guys like Kevin Johnson or Shannon Briggs. He wasn't stopping Fury or Wilder. I always liked Vitali. But Vitali didn't have the fighting spirit Fury and Wilder do, there was quit in Vitali. Vitali was a classic frontrunner. He was fine while he was doing all the leading and he was ahead (which he nearly always was, to his credit). But when trouble began, he never fought his way out of it.

Wilder's resume to date edges Vitali's. And, if Wilder beats Ortiz twice and beats Fury in their rematch, he's miles ahead of Vitali (IMO). And Vitali is a Hall of Famer.

 

I've always thought Vitali tore it because Byrd caught the punch with his extended open right glove (out of the southpaw stance). Byrd would palm a jab with his right hand and push it aside. When a guy is jabbing hard and someone catches it and pushes it outward, that can cause a lot of damage to the jabber's shoulder.

I don't think it's coincidence both Vitali and Evander tore their rotator cuffs against Byrd. It happened to Evander in the first or second round against Byrd and impacted him for years. (But Evander didn't quit in his corner, even though there were 10 or 11 rounds to go).

 

He doesn't steal thunder, he steals wins. He ducks and keeps belts hostage and has **** poor title defences against people he has already beat.

 

Dubblechin just dont try you are long in my ignore list. Long ago i realize you are biased as hell. And i`m not talking about Wilder. I`m not some no lifer like you, who is 99,99% of his time in the forums.
Eggman, you are a doctor now ? You can injury your shoulder for a lot of reasons. Just like Lomachenko did. It was because he missed a lot of shots?
And Vitali injured his shoulder in the second round if i`m not wrong, and his injury was real and he undergo surgery. Injufyr can occur almost for everything.
But a guy like you, who probably not once enter a gym, can`t know such a thing.

 

But Fury beat him clearly, so he shouldn't be considered here. In that case we can include Lewis and Byrd for Vitali - he won more rounds against each of them than Wilder did against Fury

 

Vitaly, Wilder only fought bums

 

Fury would outbox Vitali - his style is all wrong for him. But Wilder, who has zero skills, would be beaten badly and stopped by Vitali. And yes, Vitali wasn't a big puncher, but you don't need to be a big puncher to stop Wilder, whose chin is far from being good - he was Ko'ed by Romanov in the amateurs, was knocked down really hard by Harold Sconiers, hurt badly against Ortiz and even against Eric Molina, who isn't a big puncher.

 

Vitali only fought bums...