Wilder vs ATGs?

Id favor Ali and holmes to outbox him

I'm not sold Joe Louis beats him everytime but definitely beats him some of the time. no other heavyweight was as good of a combination puncher or had as good of a killers instinct as Joe Louis, great body leverage in his punches too.

Lennox would knock him out but did have a tendency to get knocked out by right hands he didnt see coming, wilder is awkward and has a much more powerful right than McCall or Rahman.

Deontay beats klitchkos ass bad

Foreman wilder would be one of the best wars in boxing, I'd give foreman the edge cause hes more skilled and has a better chin.

Jack Johnson gets knocked out fast and the classic forum starts rioting in the streets.

Joe Frazier was honestly kinda similar to wilder in a way, one trick pony's with a hell of a trick. Frazier's greatest weakness was huge punchers so when wilder lands on him it's done, then again Frazier also had alot of power and some of the best head movement in the division, might make wilder look real awkward and if he lands that gazelle punch 2 or 3 times wilder could also be knocked out. I'm gonna lean towards Frazier but if he gets caught once or twice hes lost.

Sonny liston vs wilder is a 50 50 fight

Evander holyfield by comfy decision

Mike by brutal k.o.

Rocky gets stopped early to mid rounds. Hes hands and feet were too slow to catch wilder often and was a very slow starter, just a bad style match up for rocky.

Floyd Patterson gets knocked out early.

Ezzard Charles, Jersey Joe, max schmeling, Ken Norton and bryd dont make it to the 2nd round.

Jack Dempsey would get knocked out early to mid rounds.

Riddick Bowe would win by t.k.o mid to late rounds.

 

Byrd is a horrible stylistic matchup for him.

 

Wilder is dangerous against anyone that can't put him away or avoid his right hand for twelve rounds. I think a lot of the smaller lighter punching fighters like Patterson and Schmeling would likely get put away at some point. Ken Norton might get bombed out, but I have a bit more respect for Norton than a lot of people here and give him a more than respectable chance. The only smaller non-KO fighter I'd definitely pick to beat him would be Byrd, and that's because Byrd specialised in making taller sloppier heavyweights his mistress, and would read everything Wilder threw before he threw it.

 

Maybe Norton, Byrd, Patterson, and Walcott if he manages to cut them off and connect clean on them, which wasn’t something that was easy to do. I could also see Wilder stopping Frazier if Frazier showed up out of shape like he did in both Foreman fights.

However, Walcott and Patterson were also very hard punchers as well and could knock Wilder out as well if they connect clean on him. I could also see Byrd and Norton makeing Wilder tired and frustrated, since he would be missing more punches than he did against Fury, who was a much bigger and easier target than Norton or Byrd would be.

 

This. Unless Wilder was patient and put his punches together, which he rarely does he would lose badly, since Byrd would be ducking under all of Wilder’s straight hands and would be tagging Wilder’s body up and would slowly wear him down.

 

I would add an interesting twist to this post and ask the question...assuming Wilder did land his fearsome right hand on the aforementioned, how many amongst them would recover from it?

From all those mentioned, I would suggest that Ali would...but who else?

 

Louis, Liston, Marciano, Dempsey are also possible.

Given what we've seen, Louis is more than likely. Dempsey probably too, but we don't have enough footage to be sure.

 

Frazier was a skilled hwt champion. He just lacked coordination between his left and right hands which caused his offense to be greatly left centric.

Wilder has not developed basic boxing skills and his offense is limited to a hard right hand.

Huge difference.

Ortiz a very limited hwt did well by boxing smartly keeping away from Wilders right. Almost pulled off the win until he gassed and stopped doing what was working so well.

 

I think that people sell Johnson too short here. When he was old, unmotivated, overweighed and barely pro fighter he handled Luis Firpo with ease in sparring. He fought some decent pro fighters (not at world level of course) from 1920s and did fairly well given his condition.

People think that all Johnson would do is to try to clinch and wrestle with Wilder but that's not true. He had very good anticipation and I doubt Wilder would land something quickly on him. He was very quick, likely qucker than Wilder and he wasn't that much lighter. It's possible that he'd find a way to beat Wilder. He could fight like a combination of Moran and Willard fight but with Jeffries fight conditioning. Setting up his combos with lead left, using head movement and attacking with hooks, then clinching. Playing it safely and trying to counter too. It would be tough for him, because he's much shorter but he beat quite a few tall fighters in his career. He beat:

Denver Ed Martin (at least 6'4 and 81 inches reach)
Sandy Ferguson (6'4 and 80 inches reach)
Jim Jeffords (6'4)
Peter Felix (6'3)
Tom Cowler (6'4 and 83 inches reach)
Pat Lester (6'4)

Some of them were bad, some of them were good. Denver Ed was one of the best fighters of his era who was likely better boxer than Wilder, though he wasn't durable and didn't have his power.

 

Bowe didn`t fight well against Golota in either of them bouts at all.

 

Marciano was skilled but Loma is the most skilled fighters I`ve ever seen, his footwork is far smarter than Marciano`s was.

 

Wilder is 6'7 though that is far taller than those guys.

 

Don't forget Wlad and Lewis.