Wilder vs Breazeale was ALWAYS going to be next

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Glassbrain, Mar 6, 2019.


  1. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Doesn't matter what Hearn and Whyte do I'd be shocked if their court case goes anywhere to securing them a fight with Wilder next. WBC rules are pretty clear, all their rules basically say this is how it is "unless we decide otherwise" which basically means they can legally do what they like. They could name Whyte mandatory and then change their mind at the last minute if they wanted and it would be perfecting within their own rules.

    Even if Whyte does somehow win a court case this is the WBC we're talking about here, they'll just make up a new title, mandate Whyte/Ortiz for the WBC green belt and elevate Wilder to some made up WBC belt to go with all their other belts such as Diamond, Silver, Eternal, Mayan etc. That way Whyte gets his title shot and Wilder can still duck him.
     
  2. FartWristedBum

    FartWristedBum I walk this Earth like a bum Full Member

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    Sure, I agree with you.
    However, they mandated Breazeale and Whyte to fight for mando status.
    That means neither have mandatory status as soon as the WBC order that fight.
    Sure, they can say Wilder has an exemption to fight a voluntary, but they'd be reversing their own decision IF they try to claim Wilder is facing his mandatory by fighting Breazeale.
    Essentially, Whyte and Hearn want Whyte to keep his mandatory status and have the WBC order Wilder to fight him next, Breazeale having relinquished his mando status by pulling out of the Whyte fight.
    Obviously, the WBC have proved they can grant Wilder whatever privileges they wish but so far they haven't blatantly gone against their own rulings to do so.....I think.
     
  3. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    never saw the first, but everything i read said it was controversial. chisora was well ahead in the second, until his shot ass got stopped.
     
  4. Glassbrain

    Glassbrain Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The first fight was 50/50, could have gone either way. Chisora spent too much time on the ropes for me and I had it 6-5-1 Whyte if I remember right, so no controversy. Chisora has been shot for 4/5 years apparently, "shot" tends to be used when someone is peddling a narrative rather than a term to describe someone's physical condition.
     
  5. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Which win is better?
    Bermain 'all you can eat' Stevern or Luiz '1950s' Ortiz?
    Breazeale would be his best win, because at least he is in his prime.
     
  6. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Why would Fury and Warren bolt it, it's a massive money fight, which Fury should've won the first fight. If any one bottled it would be wilder not trying to get ESB to do the fight
     
  7. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    his best was 6-7 years ago. you are overrating them because they are Brits. Chisora's signature win was a lucky ko in a fight he was getting dominated in
    over a 38 year old who Joshua had recently brutalized.
     
  8. Glassbrain

    Glassbrain Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't know what their nationality has to do with anything, care to elaborate on that one? While you're at it can you explain what a lucky KO is, thanks.
     
  9. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    when you pull your fat out of the fire with a ko. chisora-takam, or even better weaver tate. elaborating on their nationality? because odds are you are a brit vastly overrating chisora because he is a brit. like i said, he has never beaten anyone top ten level in their prime.
     
  10. Glassbrain

    Glassbrain Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This from a dude that admits to "reading about the controversy of Whyte vs Chisora" as a basis for his opinion rather than actually watching it and forming one himself. I don't think taking your estimation on whether Chisora is shot or not is something I'll be doing. In terms of his in ring performance he's pretty much been the same talented but inconsistent heavyweight for the last 9 or so years. I've come to that conclusion by watching all of his fights and not seeing any major disintegration of skills or athleticism, that's how I know he isn't shot.

    Again, a "lucky KO" is just the kind of thing that someone trying to peddle a narrative would say, yeah it was lucky because he's obviously shot right? Gtfo of here with that weak grade school line of reasoning.
     
  11. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i watched the second fight. that was enough of those two bums for me.
     
  12. Glassbrain

    Glassbrain Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah "bums", nice comeback. Glad to have been of service :ciao:.
     
  13. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    you are no service. you are bigging up a guy who has zero notable wins, in order to big up a guy who went life and death with him twice.
     
  14. Glassbrain

    Glassbrain Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Are you delusional or something, you brought him up, or have you forgotten?

    I merely stated that the fight was competitive and that Whyte deserved both wins. I mean this is some trash level posting here, just take the L and move on.
     
  15. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i said the first one was questionab;e enough that people on here disputed it. whyte was losing the second fight convincingly, until the late ko. thus the tate-weaver comparison. i know you had to run and look that one up. chisora has no top level wins. whytes best are chisora and parker. both life and death matches against guys whose reputations are easy to punch holes in.