Wilder vs Breazeale was ALWAYS going to be next

Breazeale isn't an elite fighter, but he's a better and more deserving opponent than Miller IMO. Also, fook knows who Fury will be fighting next. Could well turn out that Wilder fights the best opponent of the 3.

 

No way Breazeale is more deserving than Miller. Breazeale argubably should of lost to Kassi and was losing to Mansour untill he had to quit due to a mouth injury. Wins over Molina, Ugonah and Negron. Compare that to Miller who has hardly lost a round to the likes of Wach, Adamek, Bogdan, Duhaupas, Washington and Kassi.

 

Negron is a better fighter then Mllers last opponent Bogdan to who he WAS losing to before the stoppage and he had no power unlike Negron ?

Breazeale also defeated Molina EASIER then WILDER.

Miller has not fought Joshua nor defeated a guy like Izu a hulking 6'5 true power puncher with great offensive abilities.

Breazeale starts slow ( this is a fact) being ahead in the fight doesn't mean your going to win ( see Wilder ) ..you cant have a double standard here.

Mansour 4 years ago is someone Wilder avoided BTW and that swollen jaw was no accident ...it WAS caused by a vicious Breazeale over hand right which rivals Wilders , that's why he has a 90% k.O record and only loss is to AJ so far. He will be the first true heavy handed guy Wilder is fighting so far , people can dispute that but that's a fact.

So ,sorry but NO....Miller is not over Breazeale in terms of getting a title shot . We KNOW Breazeale can take 7 rounds of punishment from Joshua at leasdt ,lets wait and see what miller does , though he's getting a WAY more aggressive Joshua who isn't going to toy with him ,and wilder will be getting a WAY more aggressive Breazeale who Wilder don't have a jab or body punching to stop him which means Wilder HAS to catch him coming in before he himself gets clocked and his lights put out.....lol

 

Ortiz wasn't AJs mandatory in 2016 ...you lied or were to dumb yourself to look it up like the other false statements you made ,NONE were real. ? lol

Anyone claiming wilders resume is better then Joshua's and then goes on to say Klitschko fought bums in comparison doesn't need to be elaborated on because it tells ANYONE that knows boxing your an idiot !

 

I disagree, they have shared the same opponent in Kassi only a year apart from the fights. Kassi should of arguably beat Breazeale on points whilst Miller battered Kassi inside 3. I also believe Miller's win over Duhaupas (whom holds wins over Charr and Helenius) is more impressive than any win Breazeale has.

 

And Izu defeated Kassi his last fight in like 1 round or 2 ? So im not sure what you're getting at thinking Kassi is going to tell you whats going to happen against Wilder or where Breazeale is NOW whos more aware of punches coming at him now. You would also know Kassi isa 6 '0 southpaw and Breazele fights taller guys better . So again Kassi really is unimportant here.

If we went by rounds loss like you did Wilder wouldn't look that great ,you ignore that point .Again if we count rounds lost Breazeale has more but against BETTER opponents then Wilder. Breazeale didn't lose any rounds to Molina did he ? lol . Breazeals only REAL bad fight was to Joshua for obvious reasons and he was in shape around 255.

Duhapus is a walking punching bag with NO power and average skills .No punch to talk about. Breazeale has a great over hand right underated left body shot and uppercut.

Your mistake is you aren't really looking at the match ups.

Breazeale holds more of a threat to Wilder then Miller.

Miller holds more threat to AJ then Breazeale.


Miller vs Breazeale would be interesting but crowding Breazeale plays right into his hands and he would knock miller out somewhere after round 4 .

in short wilder is in for a VERY dangerous fight.

Joshua is NOT.

Breazeale has fought the NUMBER ONE HW Joshua and Izu ,Negron , Mansour arguably years ago ?

Miller has fought .??? Kassi , Bogdan, Wach are these his best wins? IDK.

I know Breazeale has been in with tougher guys.

 

Ok I don’t know what was planned with who fights who....Joshua was lined up to face miller....wilder vs brazeal (that was dead cert)....if that’s the case can someone tell me who whyte was ment to fight? It wouldn’t surprise me if these fights were lined up (infact I suspect it) but what would of happened if Whyte took the offer/and who was he ment to fight if he didnt? Ortiz nah too dangerous( not now), now he’s not relevant, so who was the back up? This sort of money involved if anything is already agreed you best belive they thought of everything

 

Wilder vs Breazeale was supposed to happen last year so Whyte has no involvement to that like he thinks he does.

He holds the silver belt title which puts him second mandatory. He can cry all he likes but he wasn't the number 1 ranked guy when Breazeale was deemed the mandatory he was 3rd.

Joshua wasn't lined up for Miller, Wilder lost his pen so Joshua decided to make a N.Y appearance with the only top ten guy available from N.Y.

Whyte wasn't meant to fight anyone, he giving an EARLY opportunity to fight Joshua but lost his nerve to and his head and ego which I know is his main problem made him miss that opportunity . One would think after you are Joshua's best knock out high light he would realize he needs to shut up and just take the fight and cut the tough talk out.

Whyte will be AJ's mando soon providing he doesn't lose and the WBC's after Breazeale fight.

Whyte will make his move at ESPN in safer fights until his mando is up for either one. Basically he's giving up a chance at 4 titles and for more money about 15 million give or take on a two fight AJ deal.

Not smart at all, hes not a champion ,only in his head. lol

Its like ppl telling me Wilder made the right choice now but ignore he lost to Fury and shouldn't have that WBC belt. smart choices aren't based on luck. So this DAZN deal shouldn't even be right now.

 

Well both yourself and mr glassbrain, flicked me right in bullocks, there and I must say Iam glad you did. I was (still probably am) in tunnel vision with my opinion on these 2 particular fights being predetermined (opponents not outcomes) that may not be the case, infact we could all be completely on the wrong page, think Keyser Soze lol. Galvatron I was about to accuse you of challenging/educating me on whytes, mandatory position with wbc, i double checked it wasn’t in was N71, or M17 or someone. Anyway I was totally wrong and I have no problem admitting it (that’s bs I hate being wrong, it’s not hard to tell it was N17 I remember the name lol). I’ve been wrong before I’ll be wrong again.

I have no idea if Joshua miller was planned next, id say it wasn’t the backup plan, it was the parallel plan.
It makes sense to have a backup plan in any situation, doesn’t it?
But a backup plan wouldn’t cut it in a situation like that, as resorting to the back up would look like a failure, and a business brain like hearns (like him or love him) wouldn’t let that be a possibility.
So what do you do?
Imagine you have no preference to the Whyte or miller fight, you know both will happen in the next 5/6 fights and your only concern is to make Joshua’s next fight the most profitable to be made right now.
So you hype both as possibilities, you let Whyte be Whyte, have Wembley booked (that’s the preferred option) and you let Miller (your fighter) get on stage at Joshua’s povetkin press conference and get in joshuas face unchallenged, then gauge the climate of which fight the fans want next. To gauge the hype for the Whyte rematch you let negotiations become public, but you don’t need to leak, Whyte does it for you. The genius part is the fans now belive that they got the best of the two options, when infact there were 3 or 4 options, it’s possible they could be the only 2 options.
Wilder is shook (knows he lost, against a fury foie gras, I hope just one person gets that lol) and knows wbc have his back, fury knows he needs to give the best account of himself, in any future title fights after clawing his way back into contention to be considered the no1 heavyweight (fury and his trainer know they pushed as far as possible, it was a camp of a lifetime, And marketing wise need to allow their popularity to gain momentum) and then during “””””purse bids””””” for a mandated wbc rematch, signs a multi million dollar 5 fight contract, has breathing space for a gimme fight (which I belive he deserves). With the WBC already don’t know if that’s right, it’s probably not,

 

Miller was a back up plan. You don't have a competent team and not have one with the next suitable opponent ( Wilder could learn a thing or two ) You don't just negotiate one fight at a time either that's why Hearn had options on Wilder /Parker ( Parker took the fight )and Wilder / Povetkin ( Wilder declined) ! even had Takam on stand by as a Pulev replacement knowing Pulevs history of running from AJ.( another guy...lol)

Whyte fight is a better fight. Better history better style clash.

Miller is a good fight ( i'll be there im down the street ) and looking for someone myself !


Not sure what OPTIONS you are talking about for AJ ? Wilder is a unconfident chicken /Whyte is a confident ego driven person / Povetkin/ Parker were already defeated and Ortiz does call outs when its to late out of the wilder handbook ,Fury wanted 60% ...that's right 60% and then went to ESPN After the Wilder fight so hes not an option right now .Usyk is not ready and so forth..............

People are really forgetting Breazeale too. The key fights wont happen if he knocks out Wilder. All this is going nowhere until we see Wilder make it out of that fight.

Whyte in the meantime now has to worry about losing for far less money and he wont see a title shot anytime soon now anyway ...UNLESS Breazeale can pull off an upset.,which due to popular belief isn't a big one as you think..

 

Yes competent teams have back up plans, but the miller fight was built along side the Whyte fight giving Hearn the option to choose the most financially viable option at the time, I don’t even think it was the demand for the miller fight that decided it, it just wasn’t the right time for the Whyte rematch.
It wasn’t a back up plan it was a plan built in parallel to the Whyte fight, this dosent mean both fights weren’t on the cards it just gave Hearn the option to choose which fight would be next based on which would generate the most money v profile v risk vs what ever criteria he uses.

I thought I made it clear on the options maybe not, but I was talking about the miller or Whyte fights, I then went on to talk about fury and wilder as options(and the reasons they won’t happen).

I agree that breazeale is a threat to wilder, and I agree that he’s done more to earn his shot than miller no doubt about it. But the threat to wilder is not based on breazeales talent it’s based on wilders clear deficiencies. That’s not to insult breazeale, it’s just that wilder is a poor boxer who looks for openings instead doing the ground work and setting up his opportunities.
Whyte has an ego no doubt but at least he backs it up, his resume is well above millers and breazeales, I agree Whyte is taking a massive risk, but I respect that.

 

DAZN was not involved at the time of stepping in and getting the miller fight .Whyte was offered the fight before that so no......

Miller only became more value fight when Whyte walked away and Miller had to be enticed more by DAZN themselves to get a fight made with a nonsense number of 7 million or so ?

DAZN is financing the MSG fight NOT Hearn now because everyone is afraid of Joshua and are paying him his highest also. Once again I know my boxing , you DONT decline title fights with highest paydays if you THINK you can win under any circumstances. ,particularly if its over 2x whatever. Whyte was offered 3x his highest pay and up to 5x in a win . That's not a massive risk that's stupidity for walking away...his financial advisor ( his brother ) should be fired , it is what it is. lol

Hearn wanted the Wembley fight for Whyte ,it doesn't help in cancelling it . If he's offering rematches with a fighter who has No belt, i don't see what more he could've done ? lol

I also know the rematch between Fury and wilder at Barclays was STILL in play when all this was going on and Hearn wanted to do a U.S fight around that time to match that as well ,but that was a secondary plan not a first ,so the push for miller was stronger. Had fury walked away sooner I think they would have pushed harder for Whyte fight but it wasn't the case.


Wilder can capitalize on Breazeales weaknesses which is true. But Breazeale is still a better boxer then giving credit for, he is the better boxer here that's not even debatable. On the same note Wilder is only in this fight because he's fast. it goes both ways.