Wilder vs Duhaupas in Birmingham

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  1. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    That's kinda what I'm saying.
    Whenever he's made to lead or fights a defense minded fighter he looks ordinary.
    But when he's got his back to the ropes, he's got the equalizer.

    Ortiz is gonna lead.
    Stiverne will feel comfortable countering, and will have a very real possibility of causing the upset
     
    chitownfightfan, Aug 11, 2015
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  2. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why didn't his team try to get Jennings or Takam? Why the bottom side of the rankings? Those are the fight Wilder needs to prepare for Povetkin.
     
    theanatolian, Aug 11, 2015
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  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Like Pianeta, Ray Austin is also widely considered one of Wlad's weakest opponents too and Wlad got a ton of cr*p for facing him even though Austin was his mandatory and hadn't lost in like six years. Wlad sparked a prime Austin in 2 without throwing a single right hand in the fight, a way past it shot 40 Austin was schooling Wilder's best win Stiverne for most of the fight before he got caught and that was a healthy Stiverne too. :rofl
     
    Serge, Aug 11, 2015
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  4. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Duhaupas is VERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRY good actually.
     
    MVC!, Aug 11, 2015
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  5. TSoprano

    TSoprano Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So Malik Fraud Scott is a top 20 now? The guy took a dive, yet it is being considered as one of Wilders best wins :lol: Duhaupas isn't top 25 neither.

    Duhaupas would lose to all these heavies:

    Wladimir Klitschko
    Alexander Povetkin
    Tyson Fury
    Kubrat Pulev
    Tony Thompson
    Antonio Tarver
    Erkan Teper
    Bryant Jennings
    Carlos Takam
    Ruslan Chagaev
    Steve Cunningham
    Anthony Joshua
    Dereck Chisora
    Joseph Parker
    Amir Mansour
    Andrey Fedosov
    Mike Perez
    Alexander Ustinov
    Mariusz Wach
    Robert Helenius
    Andy Ruiz Jr
    Luis Ortiz
    Eddie Chambers
    Francesco Pianeta
    ...
     
    TSoprano, Aug 11, 2015
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  6. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not good enough to prepare for Wlad or Sasha.
     
    theanatolian, Aug 11, 2015
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  7. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Austin's way underrated. He's a middle tier defense for Wlad, Wlad just made him look horrible. He tied Sultan Ibragimov, Donald, and Whitaker, all top 15 opponents, and within 3 years of his loss to Stiverne had beaten Davaryl Williamson and Andrew Golota back when they were still fringe contenders. He was still a top 20 guy when Stiverne beat him.
     
    andrewa1, Aug 11, 2015
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  8. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I wouldn't be so sure about Tarver, Mansour, Fedosov, Chambers, Wach and Pianeta. I know he lost to Pianeta but that was seven years ago.
     
    theanatolian, Aug 11, 2015
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  9. MVC!

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    Povetkin isn't as good as people think he is, he has many glaring weaknesses from what I see, and he has a glass mandible.

    Wilder would knock him senseless.
     
    MVC!, Aug 11, 2015
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  10. Serge

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    Golota was shot to sh*t when Austin beat him and Williamson was way past it too. :rofl

    The version Wlad fought might be underrated but the 40 year old one who Stiverne made look like the reincarnation of Ali certainly isn't. lol
     
    Serge, Aug 11, 2015
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  11. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Uh, that's 24, so he'd still be 25 under your list. He beats Ruiz easy, probably Fedosov, Ortiz, and one or two of Mansour Tarver Perez Pianeta (yeah he lost years befoer, but I'd pick him now) and Thompson. And yeah, Scott beat/drew with Glazkov, who's in basically everyone's top 10 list, even if he's maybe the weakest top 10 guy, so I'd say its fair to have him in top 20
     
    andrewa1, Aug 11, 2015
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  12. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Glass mandible? :lol: You need to check his amateur and pro resume again.
     
    theanatolian, Aug 11, 2015
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  13. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    He's fairly solid he might give Wilder a few problems....and you never know, even though he's not a big puncher, you don't need to be with Wilder. Still I go Wilder by late KO.
     
    CST80, Aug 11, 2015
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  14. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Golota was about 3.5 years removed from drawing with Byrd for WBO title and three years from being robbed against Ruiz for title, and only had one other loss since then and before his loss to Austin. So yeah, I don't see any reasonable way to argue that wasn't a meaningful win.
     
    andrewa1, Aug 11, 2015
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  15. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Fixed that for you. :good
     
    UnleashtheFURY, Aug 11, 2015
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