Wilder vs Helenius likely for October 15th

he's ****.
he'd be the 6th best win, like i said.
yes. Wilder's resume is ****

 

Very dangerous fight for wilder !

 

Helenius is ****
but decent for Wilder coming back from off of 2 beatings

Duhaupas KO'd the Helenius just 7 month after he fight Wilder
so is fair to say he is better around that time
& no Helenius is not got better in late 30s age

 

yes. so maybe
you can say Helenius, Washington, Kownacki are same level

thing is Wilder beat Duhaupas in September 2015 and Washington in February 2017. long times ago.
Helenius is 38 years, getting close to 39 by time he fights Wilder.
it is a stretch to say he is better now than he was at age 32 or 35 when he actually did get beat by those guys.
it is not realistic

 

Wilder KOs him Audley style. Same levels.

 

4th

 

I just want him to fight top ten opponents.

 

And yet he'd still be one of the better wins for Wilder or Fury.

 

Once upon a time Stiverne lost to Demetrice King. By tko. In the pro's, ten fights in, not the Amateurs.

 

But it was only Wilder. No one rated him before he fought Fury, bar a few stateside fans. Now Fury fans try and blow him up to inflate Fury.

 

"he was unknown and around 40th on Boxrec"

You could argue this made Duhaupas more of a threat than a known quantity. He'd also beaten Vitali title challenger Charr and given prime Teper a very competitive fight over 12 rounds pre-Wilder. He went on to KO 22-0 Helenius in Finland and go 12 with prime Miller several years post-Wilder. Both Teper and Miller were dangerous KO artists at the time.

Washington was the underdog when he fought Eddie Chambers, who he schooled over 8. He still remains the only fighter in 33 fights to KO Jerry Forrest and did so in 2 rounds, who in his next fight went the distance with Michael Hunter and went the distance with Takam, Zhang, Hunter again and Pulev, with many thinking he deserved to win against Zhang and Hunter 2. Washington was coming off losses when he KO'd Helenius as a clear underdog.

Helenius is in good form, arguably the best of his career and he's one of the biggest punchers Wilder has faced. But there's an argument that he's wouldn't be one of Wilder's 5 best wins, just as there's an argument that he is.

 

Morales was a step up at 9-0
K. Price was a step up at 25-0
Stiverne was a step up at 32-0
Ortiz was a step up at 39-0
Fury was a step up at 40-0

What does "step up" even mean when you're the only guy in the division to fight the No.1 ranked champ three times, two of those times when he was No.1 ranked?

 

This isn't a bad fight actually.. helenius has failed to live up to his potential but has had a bit of a Resurgence lately... two tall hard hitting HWs.. Its not a bad opponent for Wilder considering he was just knocked the f*** out, boxing fans are never happy.. Who else should he take? Whyte, Parker, Joyce .. theyre all tied up..

 

Good fight. I see Wilder sparking him out in his usual style although probably with a scare along the way.

Cleverly timed fight as well as it puts Wilder front and centre to face the winner of AJ vs Usyk.

Sadly, Fury's camp will undoubtedly mess up the negotiations for a super fight one way or another.