Wilder vs Hrgovic, 2011

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  1. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Hrgovic is only 19 years old here, and still an amateur. He turned pro in 2017!

    Wilder? He was age 26, and was 15-0 to 19-0 as a professional.

    Who did you think looks better?

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  2. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Wilder would knock him out...

    Can't hang in front of Wilder like that

    I don't think Wilder is as susceptible to lead right hands anymore.

    Just sparring anyway. Wilder doing things he wouldn't normally do here. Trying to act the big man in front of the guy who is 19 years old & tussling trying to act like it's all fun for him, it's not though getting by clean right hands isn't good.

    I'm pretty sure of all these dudes here are training with Haye in London to prepare Haye for Fury? then Haye flapped it.
     
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  3. FuryFTW

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    As I said in another thread, Dave Allen would outbox Wilder for a few minutes if they fought. Then comes the right hand.

    Wilder would KO hrgovic after looking bad for a few rounds, same as most Wilder fights.
     
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  4. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    You guys are crazy. Wilder is about as good as he's going to get and fights as you see. He was 26 in this clip. Hrgovic was better than him in the clip at age 19. He's a man now with developed skills. No way Wilder could take his punch. Fury a medium punching guy turned Wilder's legs into spaghetti in round three for the rest of the fight on a punch that was not close to a chin checker.
     
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  5. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sorry Fury fans, but Wilder is not that good:
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  6. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    I honestly think Wilder sparks him even though he is clearly not as good a boxer as Flip
     
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  7. pico11

    pico11 New Member Full Member

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    Wilder has 29-0 in that clip. And you guys dont know how good Hrgovic chin is. No way that Wilder can KO him.
     
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  8. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    You mean if Wilder just so happens to hit him flush he wont ko him?
    Look,i may get my prediction wrong here and i dont rate Wilder too highly
    But his power is real
     
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  9. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder wasn't 29-0 at any point in 2011.
     
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  10. pico11

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    That was 2013. in David Haye camp.
     
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  11. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder also worked with Haye in 2011 for the Wlad fight. The link says 2011 and says Hrgovic is 19, which he was in 2011.

    Regardless, interesting footage. Always nice to see these types of sparring sessions.

    At the top level, it seems like everyone spars with everyone else at some point.
     
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  12. RB1702

    RB1702 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No he wouldn’t lmao. Wilder maybe a s**t boxer but he’s still better technically than Dave Allen. You’re clueless when it comes to anything boxing.
     
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  13. McGrain

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    I don't make deductions from sparring footage it's silly. You've no idea what's happening. Wilder could be working on weaknesses. Hrgovic could be at 100% and Wilder at 75% in terms of readiness. Wilder may have sparred 14 rounds in the past 20 hours, Hrgovic two. There's absolutely no way to know the context.

    So while they're always interesting to see, "who looks better" is completely irrelevant if you don't have the context.
     
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  14. pico11

    pico11 New Member Full Member

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    Its 2013. 100%. Haye camp for Fury fight. Fight was cancelled because Hrgovic cut Haye eye in sparring.
     
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  15. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I know. But Hrgovic was also fighting in the WSB at that time. People come in the gym for sparring a day or two all the time. It's hard to tell. Good footage, regardless. You'd think the person who posted it would know what year it was, though.

    If it was the camp where Hrgovic cut Haye, frankly, I'd rather see footage of that.
     
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