Wilder vs. Joshua is not a risky fight for anyone.

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  1. deadACE

    deadACE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I actually agree that the best scenario would be for all 4 to face each other but I don't think father time is on our side for that. With all the rematches we have now the winners would be 2 years away from now that fight being made. Not going to happen.

    Also I'm not sure that is the top 4 at this point. Would still watch tho
     
  2. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Sure will be a knockout and I know who is getting knocked out.
     
  3. UmarIFLUmar

    UmarIFLUmar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Wilder has anything left in the tank he ends Joshua's career
     
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  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    It's risky for both, more so I'd say for Wilder since Joshua is a) four years younger and less past prime, b) had his mystique shattered by three blemishes just as Wilder did, but his only unavenged defeat(s) came at the hands of arguably the most skilled current HW, and he acquitted himself fine and was competitive both times, whereas Wilder was completely cucked by Fury thrice and seemed the inferior man even in their draw, and c) his popularity and drawing power in the UK is such that Joshua can afford to take another loss or two and still command a big gate domestically, while the general American public doesn't really give a **** about the Bronze Bomber.

    A loss hurts AJ and does diminish his stock, but isn't the nail in the coffin it probably would be for Deontay.
     
  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    The fact that semi-finalist AJ will get another shot at redemption at Usyk should both he and Usyk win is disgusting. Both Usyk and Belly had to win their semi-finals twice to progress to the final in their opponent's backyards 3/4 times where everything was stacked against them.

    Be equally disgusting if The Dosser gets another shot at redemption against Belly if he beats AJ and Belly beats Usyk. Belly beat the soul out of his body and should be 3-0 against him in The Dosser's backyard where everything was stacked against him. Let's not forget that before Baptism III The Dosser is on record saying there would be no fourth fight should he win.

    Neither of the four fights were close and neither The Dosser or AJ deserved a rematch in the first place. And even worse neither Usyk or Belly would've been given a rematch had they lost even if their losses were very controversial. AJ and The Dosser would've progressed straight to the final in the event of that. That's what would've happened.


    In addition to that, both Usyk and Belly would've took their losses far better than the despicable manner in which The Dosser and AJ took theirs and neither deserve or deserved rematches against them for that reason alone, let alone getting their asses whooped twice.


    And Belly was robbed in their first fight, one of the judges scored the first Usyk fight against AJ to Usyk by a solitary point even though Usyk whooped AJ's ass, and one of them actually did rob Usyk in the rematch somehow managing to find a way to score it 7-5 for AJ.

    Granted, Belly ducked the finalist after winning his semi-final twice but this four man tournament should go along these lines.

    Usyk vs Belly

    Usyk vs Belly II

    AJ vs The Dosser

    Possible rematch and if not let one of them fight someone else for one of the vacant belts
     
  6. ShanannaGator11

    ShanannaGator11 "She said I could." Full Member

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    I don't think it matters who goes lights out in this fight because both of them will always have fans that will come see them fight. Thats especially true for Wilder IMO. He has so much power that people want to watch him, win lose or draw because in his fights anything can happen at any time. Joshua has a large fan base and that's not going to change even if he gets laid out.
     
  7. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    This AJ vs Wilder fight should have happened years ago (for the undisputed champion) and everything else is a farce. That should have happened before the AJ vs Usyk fight. Just like today we don't have a Fury vs Usyk fight for the undisputed champion, so yesterday we didn't have an AJ vs Wilder fight for the undisputed champion (we didn't even watch a Fury vs AJ fight for the undisputed champion). The reasons why we haven't had a fight for the undisputed HW Champion since 1999 is unknown to me.
     
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  8. Ted Stickles

    Ted Stickles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because I’m sure the Saudi’s are putting up a lot of money and to do this fight with Fury and Usyk also would be a financial gain for everyone involved. It would be a huge heavyweight double header.
     
  9. mirexxa

    mirexxa Heavyweight Champ Full Member

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    Legacy will be on the line for both fighters not to mention one of them is getting knocked out. Nice joke
     
  10. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's a risk because if Joshua loses another high profile fight, then Eddie Hearn cannot make anymore money with his cash cow Joshua. Plus Joshua is quite fragile mentally atm.

    Wilders career by the same token could also take a massive hit, so of course theres alot of risk involved. Two big punchers who can KO eachother with the risk of being put out of the big Heavyweight fights in future if they lose.
     
  11. Work the body

    Work the body Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I hope that tournament is true cos that’s the only way this fight will ever happen. Offer them both so much money they’re literally forced into it. Should have happened when they both held all the belts. I think both of them would still not rather fight each other. 2 golden opportunities now in the last 5 years to make the undisputed fight and it’s still not happened. Ridiculous.
     
  12. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    It's risky for Joshua because his losses have left him caught between styles, and neither as dangerous as he was nor as effective as he's trying to be... And Wilder has the power to really test his chin.

    The risk for Wilder is that Joshua's reputation has never been lower.
    And because Wilders ludicrously inflated reputation on the back of knocking out a bunch of bums has somehow managed to continue to endure despite losing clearly to the only decent fighter he's ever fought in Fury, across three fights (two of which Fury clearly wasn't nearly in top condition), there's a real possibility that losing to Joshua could actually cause him to lose that popular perception of ever having been a top fighter.

    Their records are in no way comparable - Wilder ducked even old Wlad, Joshua stepped up and beat him; Wilder counted his lucky stars that he could avoid fighting Povetkin and ran from him from then onwards, Joshua fought and beat him... Joshua's best wins may have been against aging world class fighters in Wlad and Pov, but Wilders best wins are against an overhyped and aging gatekeeper in Ortiz.

    On paper this is, and always was, verging on a mismatch... But you can never quite count out fighters with serious punching power, and it's easy to dislike Joshua and wishful thinking has always played some part in the hype behind this one.
    Regardless, the fact that both have lost their auras, gone past their primes and no longer hold all the belts between them really takes the shine off it.
     
  13. AngryBirds

    AngryBirds Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Good for Joshua if he wants to do this, but I'd never hop in the ring with someone who hits so hard that they could end other peoples careers.