Wilder vs Ortiz 2 - Rematch Prediction Video

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  1. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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  2. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Nice video, as usual.

    I don't think anyone can recap the first fight accurately without mentioning the "doctor incident" right before the 8th round. It's what I will always remember that bout for.
     
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  3. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I meant to make a quick mention of that, and totally forgot to include that when it came down to it.

    :ohno
     
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  4. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Regardless, your videos are still the absolute best. I love the long heavyweight ones. My favourite is the Andrew Golota career recap! I would love to see one comparing of Vitali and Wladimir Klitschko (careers, ability as well as character). I always hear of people referring to them as "boring, jab and grab artists" or the like, but they were very different. I am personally a huge Vitali Klitschko fan.

    Just an idea if you ever have the time!
     
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  5. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I was actually planning to do a Klitschko video sometime this year or earlier next year. I had a slightly different approach, but I like your idea and will include that angle as well. :thumbsup:
     
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  6. Chuck Norris

    Chuck Norris Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So what? Even after the doctor check up Wilder was still hurt.
     
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  7. Safin

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    That would be amazing and I can't wait to see it.

    The idea was kind of reinforced when I recently heard trainer James Ali Bashir say on a Bayloric TV live stream that "Vitali was a cowboy, who was way more cavalier than Wladimir", or something to that effect. The contrast would make for an interesting but also enlightening analysis for many newer fans, I believe.
     
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  8. Safin

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    Then how much more hurt would he have been 1+ minute earlier? As boxing fans, we know that even "taking a knee" can help clear someone's head to a certain degree, so 1+ minute is significant time.

    I think you know that, but you must have a bias toward the American.
     
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  9. Rumsfeld

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    Agreed. Thanks for the inspiration!

    I think I will expand the idea beyond it's initial intended scope.
     
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  10. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Do you remember Jack Reiss giving Fury a further 10 seconds to recover after he stood up at 9 and half seconds?

    Do you remember the referee not stopping the fight when blood was pouring out of Fury's eye against Wallin?
     
  11. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Good vid again Rummy, but indeed the start of the 8th round should have been mentioned because it very well might have influenced the outcome of the first fight. Of course it was a rule in effect (so you can't really blame anyone but the rulemakers), but surely Wilder benefitted from it. Like Bute would have benefitted from the IBF rules in his first Andrade fight, if the referee hadn't been so bloody partial making it much more controversial that way.
    Question remains, would Ortiz have been examined and given that time if roles had been reversed.

    I have Wilder by late TKO (9 and up), while down on the cards (maybe not the official ones).
     
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  12. kostya by ko

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    Always like your videos. Like this one a lot.

    I wonder if you have thought about doing a HWs 2000-2010 decade video. It's the time I started following boxing more closely and a recap of that time would be great.
     
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  13. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    When Wilder's power starts to slip, he will be toast. He's 34 years old. It's annoying how animated he gets when he hurts his opponent.

    I think Ortiz sweeps the first three rounds then it becomes back and forth until Wilder puts him out somewhere rounds 6-9. Ortiz will probably try to conserve more energy than last time, so I do see that as a great point toward Wilder early KO'ing him.

    Great video as usual.
     
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  14. jmb1356

    jmb1356 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Your videos are fantastic and I definitely will watch later.

    I think the rematch ends sooner this time, maybe 5 rounds.
     
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  15. Leeroy84

    Leeroy84 Lancashire-la-la-la Full Member

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    Oh come off it.... are you still really banging on about Reiss? How many times, your like a child...

    If were talking about RULES, then you know as well as I do FURY SHOULD OF HAD LONGER

    You can have the Wallin cut because I agree with you on that point entirely....

    But come on dude, that count 12th round knockdown count was not a fair count, Wilder went dancing and the clock should of stopped

    Fury should of had longer and THATS where Reiss screwed up

    http://www.worldboxingfederation.net/wbfrulesandregulations.htm

    4.4 When a boxer is knocked down, the referee shall order the opponent to the farthest neutral corner of the ring and pick up the count from the timekeeper or the official counting for knockdowns. Should the opponent fail to stay in the corner as directed by the referee, the referee shall stop the count and redirect the boxer to go back to the corner and resume the count at the point that it was interrupted. In the event of any knockdown, the timekeepers count will cease when picked up by the referee whose count shall prevail and be relied on by the boxer

    Now stop with the BS about the 10 count
     
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