Wilder vs Ortiz, a moment of pure corruption

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  1. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    It's standard procedure in New York after Perez--Abdusalamov.
     
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  2. Ukansodoff

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    Well where was the standard procedure when Ortiz needed it?
     
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  3. PunchersChance.

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    The doctors should've checked him between rounds but I would blame incompetence rather than corruption. I don't think it made a difference to the end result, although i'd love to see a rematch.
     
  4. NoNeck

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    Ortiz would’ve been given that procedure had he survived the last round. It would’ve been overkill before that. Wilder was almost stopped.
     
  5. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    3 years ago Ortiz would have won. Wilder waited for Ortiz to age ( 38-41 ), and made sure he was off PED's. Ortiz gassed late and as others mentioned the break was too long
     
  6. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    All the more crazy when they were saying Fury was counted out
     
  7. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    If you can’t answer the bell it’s over
     
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  8. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    The corruption was in the scorecards and illegal punches being landed. In fact there's very little to actually like about Wilder all around the board from his team to his fans , even his pesky body guard who follows him around like a lap dog is annoying.

    Better for others who actually like him then me, can't wait until he loses ! :sisi1
     
  9. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    You'll have a long wait I think, no chance he's being put in against a live body who has a real chance vs him after the way he's looked in his last 2 fights, especially if Breazeale gives him difficulties which I suspect he will. Bet his handlers are secretly delighted Fury signed with ESPN, saved them from having to do another spin job for robbery number 2.
     
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  10. PunchersChance.

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    Ortiz, Fury and Breazeale is the best 3 fight run any HW is on right now. Breazeale will give him difficulties but he’s not a live body?
     
  11. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ortiz was down in the 5th why wasn't he afforded it after that round?
     
  12. NoNeck

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    Off memory, Ortiz was in much better shape than Wilder was a couple rounds later. I was rooting for Ortiz, but the officiating was pretty standard for New York.
     
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  13. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Corruption in Boxing.??? Surely Not.!!!!
     
  14. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Nope, Wilder is going in with a LIVE body . Wilder may very well lose his next fight and is going to find it very difficult to stay undefeated with relying on a power punch to change things.

    Like ive said when he stepped up to Ortiz ,its going to go down hill now, lets recap.

    1. He was SAVED by the bell vs Ortiz ( by my OWN rules when picking fights im not sure I even count that as a wrong pick /combined with some shady goings on after the round.) also didn't know Ortiz didn't pass a pre fight physical until I turned on the T.v where it was announced ( somehow that footage is gone too..lol)

    2. He lost to Fury ,most know he did that aren't brain dead. This should have been his official loss, im book marking it as a correct pick bc its to obvious.

    Wilder is now unofficially 1 and 1 with RELEVANT fighters.

    My own breakdown of the Breazeale fight DIRECTLY puts it as a very close 50 /50 fight ,it has all the right ingredients for a upset ( not really an upset ) both are very evenly matched in what they lack . This is where you are overlooking a LIVE body here, not only is wilder in GREAT danger of losing getting knocked out by Breazeale but he once again has to give up size advantage something hes not good at ...AT ALL.

    SHOULD he get by Breazeale ,he has easier fights style wise but unless he fights guys like Kownacki and Ortiz ( I don't think hes maintaining ) he can slide another year well into 2021...but in boxing terms that's not long at all, in fact its right around the corner, Again SHOULD he get by Breazeale .


    IF he does link up with Fury ,I still put that a 50/50 fight as well ,only bc Fury lacks TRUE HW power. Fury had his chance and decided to be a clown as usual and will not have the element of surprise now, it will be difficult for him to avoid getting hit clean and AGAIN Wilder wont win if 'below 215.

    IF Wilder comes in around 210 for Breazeale ,im picking Breazeale to knock him out ., so I hope he comes in 205/210 it will only give me more ammo to add to this match up,whicvh really only slightly favors Wilder.

    HW history is HUGELY against Wilder not taking an L from here on in, smart money is bet against him in fights like his next one where the odds wont really reflect the match up. So chances are my wait isn't long at all considering how many cherry picks can he have now?

    Not many and believe me his next cherry pick is also a mandatory which may go just as bad if not worse then Ortiz and Fury should Breazeale land on him ,he has one thing Wilder fears the most...that's power and Breazeale brings a 6'7 attribute to it, I believe there will come a point in the fight where one is about to go.....Wilder has 7 rounds favoring him , Breazeale has 5...there's nothing clear at all in this fight.

    If it goes to scorecards ,I expect another robbery, really don't know how wilder has any fans he cant even lose legitamatley ,I would never root for anyone like that. lol
     
  15. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    One was literally knocked down from a punch and didnt even get a look over? Where wilder was allowed extra recovery time after having time to recover between rounds? Sorry man it was obviously corrupt.